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Great read!

And is for the “overcompensating” theory, while it is not easy to prove this but I wouldn’t be too surprised if they worry way more about missing in the direction of understanding GOP than the other way around.

For one thing, Dems esp the ones who consume news tends to be the neurotic ones who is more paranoid about polls underestimating Trump than the other way around. They prob won’t yell and scream if the polls underestimate Dems.

For another Trump himself and Too Online MAGAs also scream when they are underestimated on the poll (like they literally sued Ann Seltzer) while they don’t call polls fake when GOP is overestimated.

So, underestimating GOP/Trump is almost a recipe for being yelled and heckled by those two groups while the other way around is not - and many polled at the end of the day are sponsored by the media, who have to cater to the demand of the audience as well as wanting to minimize the risk of unwanted lawsuits.

(The case for Trafalgar tho is prob somewhat different - I don’t think it is super far fetched to call them basically GOP hopium pollsters where the methodology is very opaque and have track record of wild misses in off year elections. Not quite sure if I go as far to call them making up numbers to match the narrative they try to push but I think there are some smokes out there?)

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Rating polls by difference from election results may make sense for some purposes, but it ignores the polls' claimed standard errors. If a poll predicts a Republican victory by six percentage points, with a standard error of two percentage points, a Democratic victory is very strong statistical evidence that either the poll's estimate or its standard error were wrong. But with a four percentage point standard error, the result is consistent with an accurate poll.

For most of us not involved in polling, the most important information in a poll is the implied probability of the election result. A useful metric of relative poll accuracy is how much money you would make or lose betting using one poll's implied probabilities for payouts and the other for bets. You can also compare polls to prediction market prices and expert judgments.

Unfortunately, since polls are taken over somewhat different time intervals you can't always find direct head-to-head comparisons. But that's also true of the metric used in the post.

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