I hope this passes. China does use Tik Tok as a weapon. There is a reason the algos for users in China are different than for U. S. users. I think Tik Tok is one reason the youth are so messed up. (Note that I said ONE reason, NOT the reason or the like.)
At the same time, I'm nervous that someone will sneak some anti-free speech stuff into the bill.
I will add a bud-um-tss to the end of a joke just so it’s clear. Like, did you hear about the Vatican’s new standards for miracles?? They are going to count the fact Pope Francis’ Fiat never breaks down as one of his miracles for canonization! Bud-um-tss!!
Here is the document report I did a few months ago when TIKTOK published the NSA files that had been dumped on their site;
Clearly showing that open-ai had 'cracked the AES' system which is used for all banking in USA;
NSA quickly nationalized open-ai when the board found out that altman was working with NSA they fired him, then the NSA had the hounds of hell fire the open-ai board;
Now MUSK is suing open-ai and all engineers have moved to Microsoft which already has a NSA clean-room for future work;
This document contains links and originals of the documents posted on 'tiktok' by NSA leakers. This post caused an immediate outrage in DC and CCP refused to tell tik-tok to take the posts down;
Well the NSA could always crack AES by "Brute Force" it took TIME, they could always crack your bank accounts and read your encrypted emails; But it took time
Now using chat-GPT its instant, they can have it find 'information of interest' and ask that it be encrypted instantly with puts infinite power at the hands of the 'analysts' it also creates a new arms-race in AI between china, Russia, and USA-UK
It also means that all encryption is now broken, because if Big-Brother can do this, then so can the little kid in India in a shack;
Bytedance is basically a CCP cutout. TikTok is the world’s most successful spyware. Compare what our teens are pushed by the algorithms versus what Chinese teens see. In China, the feed is about kids doing well in classes, science contests, and wholesome material. American teens are fed a steady diet of detrimental content.
China has effectively blocked US-based social networks operating in China, both to control information and to foster home grown companies. It's kind of insane that we haven't done any true tit for tat in this sector. Especially since the economic cost to the US of cracking down on Chinese IT is so much less than doing it to manufacturing sectors.
China has banned facebook, google, twitter, and all USA NSA spyware, hell even in the 1990's you couldn't use 'gmail' /google ( NSA) in China, everybody was using the chinese version of yahoo, or their own native chinese products
It's good that China never let the filth into China, it has kept their children safe;
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USA is butt-hurt that China has a better product, the kids certainly prefer tok-tok;
Seems only yesterday that China said "USA will pay for the rope bought from China, where USA hangs themselves on that rope", those words certainly hold true; Today USA buys the precursors for Fentanyl cooked in Mexico by ZOG owned labs and dumped into USA;
Yep, George W Bush made China great again! He accomplished what his father could only dream of. I will never forget his victory lap at the Beijing Olympics as the American economy was imploding.
Hardly BUSH, CLINTON in 1990's did the "Pivot to ASIA" where CIA pivoted to join CSB ( china CIA ), because the CIA-Mossad-CSB-KGB are all Pinkertons for the Rothschild bank and CIA was told that by 2025 the US-Dollar would be worthless so they had to pivot-to-asia to secure 'base' so they could procure and launder Chinese money aka YUAN;
BUSH-2 just carried water, but all this goes back to RAYGUN and even in 1950's Rockefeller original plan was to 'reset' USA by 2025, Rockefeller began in 1840's in Shanghai trading "Whale Oil" for Rothschild bank, this has always been about "CHINA"
Oh thank God, at first I saw his comments under Mark Marshall's post and I was worried that ChatGPT really was going to hack into everyone's bank accounts and decrypt my emails, but now reading his other comments I know that isn't going to happen.
This story shows you who are the real ZOG cucks in the USA, if you don't support tiktoks freedom to publish with no censorship, then your the same as those that have assange rotting in UK jail at Belmarsh the most sadistic prison on earth,for what?? wikileaks
You political class in DC going nutz cuz all their crown-jewels getting published by tik-tok where all the US-MIL have figured out they can anonymously post all the classified US-GOV secrets and make them public risk-free
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Because tiktok is the new wiki-leaks and censors nothing and its driving the RINO/demoRAT deep-state ( sodomite state ) nutz
A few weeks ago they posted the NSA correspondence with open-ai where open-ai had found that the new AI could crack encryption, which the NSA quickly took control of OpenAI led sam-altman to be fired and all engineers at open-ai left open-ai and went to microsoft ( real owner of open-ai software )
Microsoft is no different they have been owned by NSA since 1997
"Now who can argue with that? I think we’re all indebted to Bilbo'sBitch for clearly stating what needed to be said. I’m particularly happy these lovely children were here to listen to this speech. Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish, it exposed a courage little seen in this day and age."
The gist of this story is that open-AI managed to crack AES ( encryption ) and can now get into anybodys bank-account, including members of congress :)
That means even HRC's $25 biillion EUROs in Qatar&UAE/Dubai are no longer safe; Nor trumps, nor bidens
The source documents had been posted on tik-tok and then re-posted on 4chan, which is a common hangout for US-Navy-INTEL, who verified the authenticity of the documents
Gabby Hilton was his name and if I remember right, every harelip in town was name "Hilton" must have been the birthplace of Hilton Hotels, another Hollywood Mogul Empire;
I think the point about certain tags and ideologies being elevated over others by TikTok’s own algorithm basically kills on sight the notion that the platform supports free speech. If it’s elevating one narrative over another in the way that it appears to be doing then I don’t think it’s any better than what you’re accusing the political class in DC of being.
Now, if you support the narrative that TikTok is elevating, that’s an entirely separate issue, and you are entirely entitled to that opinion. I would disagree with that opinion, but you’re welcome to it. Just please don’t mask your preference for one flavor of propaganda over another as support for free speech, please.
>I think the point about certain tags and ideologies being elevated over others by TikTok’s own algorithm<
That's not a "point" — it's an allegation. TikTok is trying to drive profits, and, just like Meta, employs an algorithm that generates virality. I mean, one would likely encounter lots of of "Free Palestine" signage on the campuses of Harvard or Berkeley. Would that also be because of the CCP?
I don't use tiktok, but I do know that the US-MIL guys have been dumping tons of top-secret classified USA secrets on tik-tok, which IMHO makes tik-tok the good guys and makes the US-MIL look like morons and their ZOG government in DC
SNOWDEN dumped NSA files and ran to Russia, Assange just published stuff given to him and looking at 150+ years in prison
But when stuff gets dumped on tik-tok the NSA can't find out who 'dunnit' cuz the CCP says 'fuck-off' I don't think they really want to ban tik-tok they CIA wants the CSB to share intel ( CSB china-security Bureau is their CIA-FBI )
I don't expect you to understand anything I write cuz your only purpose is to parrot Mossad talking points, which are boring;
Even if this is true, isn’t it concerning that a government could have control of what content is or is not elevated on a certain platform? The Chinese government could be amenable to the dissemination of classified U.S. Military information, like you are referencing. But there is plenty of content that they are not amenable to. Like I said, if your goal is the furthering of a certain agenda then that’s fine. But if you claim to support free speech, then TikTok is antithetical to that. Today they might entertain classified military info (and I haven’t done my research, I don’t know if they do or not, but just for the sake of argument let’s assume they do); but tomorrow they could change their mind. True freedom of speech would not give that power to any government — American, Chinese, or otherwise. Wikileaks and Assange and Snowden, sure, knock yourself out, but do you really want to trust the Chinese Communist Party to do better with handling those sorts of things than the United States government? It just feels like an inconsistent argument to me.
The chinese government simply doesn't censor any top-secret documents normally in the west if somebody were to publish top-secret doc the US-MIL aka NSA/CIA would order them to "Take it Down"
In the case of CHINA when USA say's "JUMP" the chinese just start laughing.
They may behave that way today (and to be clear I’m not even agreeing with your point that they do), but there’s no certainty that they would continue to feel the same way tomorrow. That’s the only point I’m trying to make.
China's ascendency to over-take the West was put in motion by Rothschilds in 1820's - I have written much on this history from then to now; Years ago when China opened I went to live in Shanghai, I did martial arts in the morning with these 80 year old guys, many could still speak english from when in 1920's the USA/US-MIL had occupied China, put all their women on opium made them into whores and the men into coolies; I would listen to their storys learned much, I already knew the story because I had studied Rex Applegates "Kill or Be killed" the book for special-forces on how to kill in ASIA; Written during that era when US-MIL had to kill first and ask questions later;
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Hardly BUSH, CLINTON in 1990's did the "Pivot to ASIA" where CIA pivoted to join CSB ( china CIA ), because the CIA-Mossad-CSB-KGB are all Pinkertons for the Rothschild bank and CIA was told that by 2025 the US-Dollar would be worthless so they had to pivot-to-asia to secure 'base' so they could procure and launder Chinese money aka YUAN;
BUSH-2 just carried water, but all this goes back to RAYGUN and even in 1950's Rockefeller original plan was to 'reset' USA by 2025, Rockefeller began in 1840's in Shanghai trading "Whale Oil" for Rothschild bank, this has always been about "CHINA"
Who ordered "SODOMY" I will post some old links on the USA history and Sodomy;
Even the slaves originally white, later black all the ZOG owners would 'break the buck' on arrival, buck meant you man-slave, and breaking the buck meant to tie him to a hitching post and drop his pants and ass-fuck him in front of all the other slaves, and they would keep doing that until the 'buck' was broken
Original settlement in USA by the "PILGRIMS" (ZOG) was white slave debtors from UK, brought to USA as slaves for life even their children were slaves, and the men worked and the women were whores for the PILGRIM(ZOG) colonists; Not until the late 1600's were blacks brought in because the ZOG got bored of fucking whites, and wanted to mix it up; During that time the whites now six generations of slavery began to rebel, so over time the slaves became mostly 'black' and the SCOTUS had codified in USA that 'blacks' were not human, so there was no questioning their slavery or their murder;
Deep-State is Sodomite State, always has been since 1871 when London took ownership of Wash-DC
Today Rinos are sodomites and demoRats are pedophiles
Todays US-GOV is ran by Operation-Paperclip Legacy Nazi's who were 100% homosexual, thus the push for pedophile normalization;
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The deep state is all about 'buggery' that comes from UK London owners,
We even call the USSA, the USSA because "United Sodomite States of America" goes back to the Pilgrim days when ashekeNAZI ( now zionists ) first arrived in 'america'; Then & now they were all sodomites;
Microsoft only holds a minority stake in Open AI LLC. The majority ownership of Open AI LLC is OpenAI Inc, a non profit corporation, which is managed by a board of directors including Bret Taylor, Larry Summers, and Adam D'Angelo. All three board members support Sam Altman, who is still the CEO of Open AI LLC, despite briefly being removed from that position by a previous board of Open AI Inc.
While MS might hold a minority in open-ai 'stock' ( worthless IMHO as they have no 'moat' ), but they own the tech, cuz they paid for it, dumb suckers, but hell obviously the NSA didn't trust open-ai in the long term so they moved the crap to MS
Microsoft recently spent over $100M on acquiring most of the technology and most of their engineers bailed after the coup
MUSK is now suing open-ai for breach of contract
1.) they are not open
2.) they were never chartered to be woke
3.) they were always told to do good, and not become little bitches of NSA-DOD/CIA
They have failed all three
but all is good cuz at Microsoft its been 100% NSA since Gates sold out to US-GOV back in the mid 1990's in fear of losing his monopoly on windows and losing an anti-trust case, MS went on to become king of the world and NSA got to be on every windows platform deployed abroad
Good piece overall. But wow, the takeaway and data cherrypicking in the second to last paragraph is tough to see from a usually objective writer.
Nate states, "For instance, given the relatively small numbers — in advance of the 2016 election, Russian agents 'published more than 131,000 messages on Twitter and uploaded over 1,000 videos to Google’s YouTube service.'" Wow, you might say, that really isn't much!
But following the very link that Nate cites, the headline is "Russian Influence Reached 126 Million Through Facebook Alone." Talk about burying the lede! In other words, researchers were able to verify that AT LEAST one third of all Americans saw propaganda from a SINGLE country through a SINGLE social media site. Unfortunately, here Nate purposefully omitted the Facebook results, only citing Twitter and Youtube, in order to support his narrative, while ignoring the actual point of the article and study. Not a great look.
Analogy: If an article that said, "Climate change impacts: record highs across the globe, except in Branson, Missouri," and Nate cited the studying, saying, "I'm skeptical of climate change - this study showed that Branson was actually 1 degree cooler this year!" that would be a major issue.
Further, we have to assume that these numbers are the bare minimum - those that this single study was able to fully verify. It might be fair to assume that there could be two, five, even twenty times more propaganda out there that researchers were unable to find or fully verify. The whole goal of propaganda, after all, is to not be found.
Further, that study only looks at 3 social media sites. What about others, such as Reddit, which has an infamous reputation for being a source of foreign interference? Not to mention 4chan, Instagram, comments on news articles, and so many others.
Lastly, that study references only Russian information - a single country. How much misinformation is being pushed by the many other countries who want to see a destabilized US? China, Iran, Iraq, and so many others?
Nate may be skeptical of the amount foreign misinformation, but using his own source here, even without going further with common sense extrapolation, it suggests that misinformation is, indeed, a massive problem. It's concerning that Nate misrepresented the findings of the NYTimes article.
Nate, let the data inform your opinions on this, don't let your opinions inform the data. This is your whole appeal as a journalist.
“Facebook cautioned that the Russia-linked posts represented a minuscule amount of content compared with the billions of posts that flow through users’ News Feeds everyday. Between 2015 and 2017, people in the United States saw more than 11 trillion posts from Pages on Facebook.”
Sounds an awful lot like the “drop-in-the-bucket” point Nate was making.
Similar for Twitter and YouTube. Facebook also referenced $100k in ad revenue, which really doesn’t sound like a lot to me.
I also don’t see NYT’s own 126m impressions figure corroborated anywhere else in their own article past that lede. They do reference 29m impressions between Jan. ‘15 and Aug. ‘17, the latter of which is of course almost a year after the 2016 election.
Also interesting that you’re concerned with the cold hard facts of this article, but then implore us to consider these figures to be conservative estimates. Which one is it? Misinformation is bad, except when the assumption of information might help your point?
I don’t like to argue meanly or in bad faith, but I don’t feel that your comment was in good faith itself. In responding to an article concerned with the political calculus of the United States banning TikTok, you accuse the author of misrepresenting an article he quoted by misrepresenting the article he quoted, all in the name of fighting misinformation, the proliferation of which is one of the primary reasons we’re talking about TikTok in the first place. Impressive rhetorical calisthenics, if I do say so myself. But not really that helpful in the grand scheme of things. Please do better.
Clinton ran an awful campaign and the 24 year status quo of wars free trade , the Washington consensus, pissed off enough people to put the real estate guy in the White House
"researchers were able to VERIFY that X people saw Y..."
These researchers are either lying or hallucinating (due to the norms of the culture they were raised in, I'd bet).
> Lastly, that study references only Russian information ....
If you read the article more closely (dig into sources, etc) you may notice that what they are actually describing is Western claims/perceptions of "Russian" misinformation, not genuine known(!) Russian actions.
This world runs on Allism, I wouldn't expect accuracy from people who lack the ability to generate it, especially if they are paid to do (or profit from) the opposite.
A point of clarification with word usage. “It’s one thing to have your phone lines jammed by constituents, but another if it’s teenagers with a rabid TikTok habit.” Constituents are all people represented by legislators, including teenagers.
Uuuhhhhhh come on Nate, Russian "misinformation" is about Buttery Males. Misinformation is a bad term for this- Russian influence in 2016 wasn't problematic because social media posts had a big impact on the electorate but rather Russia's leaks of highly sensitive (if rather benign) personal messages. It's not misinformation Russia was good at in 2016, it was doxxing.
Except the evidence Russia leaked information is lacking , whereas evidence of federal officials illegally leaking information about Trump in 2016 is pretty clear
> Eh? The evidence is only lacking if you believe Russia over the US intelligence community.
Incorrect. The truth value of evidence genuinely lacking is independent of " if you believe Russia over the US intelligence community". You are describing the realm of belief (typically referred to as "the reality" in our culture, completely unironically lol), not the realm of knowledge.
In July 2018, USDOJ indicted 12 Russian GRU officers for their involvement in the cyber operations against the 2016 U.S. election. The indictment detailed how the officers allegedly hacked into the email accounts of staff members of Hillary Clinton’s campaign, including the chairman John Podesta, and the DNC, and then released stolen emails through websites like DCLeaks and Guccifer 2.0, and later through WikiLeaks.
Make that 11 indictments, when one of those accused showed the fed dropped the charges for lack of evidence. I am sure the other 11 are rock solid as well.
I would still argue the most consequential #fakenews of the 2016 cycle was Brett Baier reporting that Hillary’s indictment was imminent within two weeks of Election Day. And Baier got it from the Keystone Cop Andrew McCabe who fed Baier information ostensibly to make the FBI look better?!? Trump was correct to say Comey/McCabe deserved to be fired…but you don’t fire Comey/McCabe without a replacement better than Wray! WTF??
Besides his tax returns , that he and his associates were being investigated for Russian connections. Keep in mind it was Harry Reid who lent credence to the Russia hoax in October 2016 using information funneled to him.
The issue is one specific person that clearly needs to be banned, but instead is being allowed to mass post conspiracy theories about the NSA firing Sam Altman. He has literally been at this for multiple hours.
Using GPTs to crack encryption actually seems not that implausible. You can experiment yourself with simple ciphers like caesar and write custom instructions to let GPT-4 crack it. It's of course bullshit to think that you can hack AES by simple prompt, but you can instead use GPT for different purposes, for example you may employ some form of cryptanalysis to produce chunks of partially deciphered examples and then use GPT to scan them to spot ones with promising patterns. Recent language models have big context lengths which could allow to solve such tasks more efficiently. ML had been used to crack ciphers for long time, even in past century, it's quite often about language statistics, co-occurence of certain word/character patterns - all that stuff that LLMs are actually quite good at (as they are large language models after all).
The sheer brass neck of the CCP, spreading pro-Palestinian propaganda to try and destabilise the west, at the same time as it ethnically cleanses its own Uyghurs.
If this law does not pass, then in a generation or two there is a chance that China will dominate extensive parts of the world and treat citizens there as it treats the Uighur Muslims. This might sound exaggerated, but the achievements of Chinese propaganda with TikTok in turning an entire generation against everything America represents are unprecedented.
Seriously you ever been to Tibet, or CHina, or Uighur?
ALl you know is CIA bullshit;
I tell you all this, the worst place on earth is any USA city where humans live in shit all drugged out like zombies
All of CHINA is like Disneys "Tomorrowland" since 1990's and there ain't no crime or no homeless or people living in shit on the sidewalks, and say in DALI (YUNAN) and old woman at the market openly sell marijuana, cuz nobody abuses it;
Have you ever considered a lot of American ideology is a cesspit of rot? China has major issues with authoritarianism, but I'd rather are youth have Chinese values than American values.
It's weird to try and position people's horror at Israel's genocide as an example of TikTok misinformation. If the opinion about war crimes in Gaza feels a tad one-sided on TikTok, it's because the issue is one-sided. The crimes being committed and the genocidal motivation behind them are happening in full view of the entire world, and the reaction online needs no misinformation conspiracy to explain it.
The issue is not Bytedance being under the control of the CCP. My guess is that any videos pushing propaganda and disproportionately surfaced by the algorithm have minimal effect on the long term thinking for teens. Also, what useless data could the CCP be siphoning that is not already obvious (names, photos, contact details of users that every other company has access to)? The real issue is that a large percentage of teens and young adults do and will continue to waste 2+ hours on TikTok daily…that’s an “us” problem moving towards Idiocracy (the TikTok interface seems to have ripped off Mike Judge’s vision from the movie where people consume empty content. I’ve never understood the debate around whether or not to ban the app or force a transfer of ownership; how does that solve the problem of social media app algorithms, generally…
Congresspersons may be useless in passing meaningful legislation, but if Bytedance was an actual threat our intelligence agencies would have stepped in and forced Congress’ hand to act. Therefore, it may not be a political
issue to Nate because neither party can claim a win, but the fact that neither party can claim a win is what makes it political in my mind - true bipartisan national security issues tend to be handled, even if messy. This bill will not reach Biden’s desk.
...is it a good or bad thing for the US government to own tiktok...or microsoft...are these wheels of money or influence?...and if influence what does that say about any social media tool that it can be "mass" adopted (ie; unbreakable)?...if the means to control a message/mind are this simple, haven't we all already lost (add A.I. and Apple 'BationMasks)?...we should ban Warner Brothers too while we have the chance (largely for screwing up the live action scooby doos)...
What frustrates me is the fact that the average age for government is between 55-65. The majority of TikTok users are people between the ages of 13-35. Of course priorities are going to be completely different. The USA is also in this weird twilight zone era where we are asking people who BARELY know how to use a smartphone to make complicated policy on apps that they have absolutely zero understanding of how it works.
The Mark interview with the government was a prime example of how out of touch and clueless our government representatives are. On top of the fact, privacy is virtually non-existent with the internet now-a-days. Between tracking algorithms and cookies between Amazon, Google, all social media, etc. privacy is dead. People want to scream "but TikTok spies!" so does Google, so does Amazon.
I hope this passes. China does use Tik Tok as a weapon. There is a reason the algos for users in China are different than for U. S. users. I think Tik Tok is one reason the youth are so messed up. (Note that I said ONE reason, NOT the reason or the like.)
At the same time, I'm nervous that someone will sneak some anti-free speech stuff into the bill.
Is your closing line meant as a joke?
I will add a bud-um-tss to the end of a joke just so it’s clear. Like, did you hear about the Vatican’s new standards for miracles?? They are going to count the fact Pope Francis’ Fiat never breaks down as one of his miracles for canonization! Bud-um-tss!!
I agree that faith-based thinking in religion has many similarities to the faith based thinking of secularists!
It’s a Fiat joke!! Lighten up Francis!
I happen to not find this state of affairs to be purely humorous.
Making fun of Fiats is funny at a global scale. People even made fun of them in Cairo! Fix It Again Tony!
Here is the document report I did a few months ago when TIKTOK published the NSA files that had been dumped on their site;
Clearly showing that open-ai had 'cracked the AES' system which is used for all banking in USA;
NSA quickly nationalized open-ai when the board found out that altman was working with NSA they fired him, then the NSA had the hounds of hell fire the open-ai board;
Now MUSK is suing open-ai and all engineers have moved to Microsoft which already has a NSA clean-room for future work;
https://bilbobitch.substack.com/p/homo-sam-altman-was-fired-from-open
This document contains links and originals of the documents posted on 'tiktok' by NSA leakers. This post caused an immediate outrage in DC and CCP refused to tell tik-tok to take the posts down;
Why is this new??
Well the NSA could always crack AES by "Brute Force" it took TIME, they could always crack your bank accounts and read your encrypted emails; But it took time
Now using chat-GPT its instant, they can have it find 'information of interest' and ask that it be encrypted instantly with puts infinite power at the hands of the 'analysts' it also creates a new arms-race in AI between china, Russia, and USA-UK
It also means that all encryption is now broken, because if Big-Brother can do this, then so can the little kid in India in a shack;
New post on tik-tok
https://bilbobitch.substack.com/p/why-is-wash-dc-so-butt-hurt-about
Bytedance is basically a CCP cutout. TikTok is the world’s most successful spyware. Compare what our teens are pushed by the algorithms versus what Chinese teens see. In China, the feed is about kids doing well in classes, science contests, and wholesome material. American teens are fed a steady diet of detrimental content.
China has effectively blocked US-based social networks operating in China, both to control information and to foster home grown companies. It's kind of insane that we haven't done any true tit for tat in this sector. Especially since the economic cost to the US of cracking down on Chinese IT is so much less than doing it to manufacturing sectors.
China has banned facebook, google, twitter, and all USA NSA spyware, hell even in the 1990's you couldn't use 'gmail' /google ( NSA) in China, everybody was using the chinese version of yahoo, or their own native chinese products
It's good that China never let the filth into China, it has kept their children safe;
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USA is butt-hurt that China has a better product, the kids certainly prefer tok-tok;
Seems only yesterday that China said "USA will pay for the rope bought from China, where USA hangs themselves on that rope", those words certainly hold true; Today USA buys the precursors for Fentanyl cooked in Mexico by ZOG owned labs and dumped into USA;
Yep, George W Bush made China great again! He accomplished what his father could only dream of. I will never forget his victory lap at the Beijing Olympics as the American economy was imploding.
Hardly BUSH, CLINTON in 1990's did the "Pivot to ASIA" where CIA pivoted to join CSB ( china CIA ), because the CIA-Mossad-CSB-KGB are all Pinkertons for the Rothschild bank and CIA was told that by 2025 the US-Dollar would be worthless so they had to pivot-to-asia to secure 'base' so they could procure and launder Chinese money aka YUAN;
BUSH-2 just carried water, but all this goes back to RAYGUN and even in 1950's Rockefeller original plan was to 'reset' USA by 2025, Rockefeller began in 1840's in Shanghai trading "Whale Oil" for Rothschild bank, this has always been about "CHINA"
Coo coo
Coo coo
You should change your name to Bush’s bitchboi. ;)
Oh thank God, at first I saw his comments under Mark Marshall's post and I was worried that ChatGPT really was going to hack into everyone's bank accounts and decrypt my emails, but now reading his other comments I know that isn't going to happen.
Yup
This story shows you who are the real ZOG cucks in the USA, if you don't support tiktoks freedom to publish with no censorship, then your the same as those that have assange rotting in UK jail at Belmarsh the most sadistic prison on earth,for what?? wikileaks
You political class in DC going nutz cuz all their crown-jewels getting published by tik-tok where all the US-MIL have figured out they can anonymously post all the classified US-GOV secrets and make them public risk-free
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Because tiktok is the new wiki-leaks and censors nothing and its driving the RINO/demoRAT deep-state ( sodomite state ) nutz
A few weeks ago they posted the NSA correspondence with open-ai where open-ai had found that the new AI could crack encryption, which the NSA quickly took control of OpenAI led sam-altman to be fired and all engineers at open-ai left open-ai and went to microsoft ( real owner of open-ai software )
Microsoft is no different they have been owned by NSA since 1997
The point is we would
"Now who can argue with that? I think we’re all indebted to Bilbo'sBitch for clearly stating what needed to be said. I’m particularly happy these lovely children were here to listen to this speech. Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish, it exposed a courage little seen in this day and age."
-- Mel Brooks
hell yes, my favorite movie and I post that quote often
New post on tik-tok
https://bilbobitch.substack.com/p/why-is-wash-dc-so-butt-hurt-about
https://bilbobitch.substack.com/p/homo-sam-altman-was-fired-from-open
Original post reporting the TIKTOK dump that made DC-GOV 'deep state' go full retard on TikTok;
The gist of this story is that open-AI managed to crack AES ( encryption ) and can now get into anybodys bank-account, including members of congress :)
That means even HRC's $25 biillion EUROs in Qatar&UAE/Dubai are no longer safe; Nor trumps, nor bidens
The source documents had been posted on tik-tok and then re-posted on 4chan, which is a common hangout for US-Navy-INTEL, who verified the authenticity of the documents
Gabby Hilton was his name and if I remember right, every harelip in town was name "Hilton" must have been the birthplace of Hilton Hotels, another Hollywood Mogul Empire;
I think the point about certain tags and ideologies being elevated over others by TikTok’s own algorithm basically kills on sight the notion that the platform supports free speech. If it’s elevating one narrative over another in the way that it appears to be doing then I don’t think it’s any better than what you’re accusing the political class in DC of being.
Now, if you support the narrative that TikTok is elevating, that’s an entirely separate issue, and you are entirely entitled to that opinion. I would disagree with that opinion, but you’re welcome to it. Just please don’t mask your preference for one flavor of propaganda over another as support for free speech, please.
The boosting of certain content does not prevent speaking freely. If certain speech was known(!) to be suppressed you'd have a better case.
The article cites TikTok’s own data on the imbalance between pro-Palestine and pro-Israel content.
It does indeed, but that is orthogonal to my comment.
And what's your game here, discovery of truth, or distortion of it?
>I think the point about certain tags and ideologies being elevated over others by TikTok’s own algorithm<
That's not a "point" — it's an allegation. TikTok is trying to drive profits, and, just like Meta, employs an algorithm that generates virality. I mean, one would likely encounter lots of of "Free Palestine" signage on the campuses of Harvard or Berkeley. Would that also be because of the CCP?
I don't use tiktok, but I do know that the US-MIL guys have been dumping tons of top-secret classified USA secrets on tik-tok, which IMHO makes tik-tok the good guys and makes the US-MIL look like morons and their ZOG government in DC
SNOWDEN dumped NSA files and ran to Russia, Assange just published stuff given to him and looking at 150+ years in prison
But when stuff gets dumped on tik-tok the NSA can't find out who 'dunnit' cuz the CCP says 'fuck-off' I don't think they really want to ban tik-tok they CIA wants the CSB to share intel ( CSB china-security Bureau is their CIA-FBI )
I don't expect you to understand anything I write cuz your only purpose is to parrot Mossad talking points, which are boring;
Even if this is true, isn’t it concerning that a government could have control of what content is or is not elevated on a certain platform? The Chinese government could be amenable to the dissemination of classified U.S. Military information, like you are referencing. But there is plenty of content that they are not amenable to. Like I said, if your goal is the furthering of a certain agenda then that’s fine. But if you claim to support free speech, then TikTok is antithetical to that. Today they might entertain classified military info (and I haven’t done my research, I don’t know if they do or not, but just for the sake of argument let’s assume they do); but tomorrow they could change their mind. True freedom of speech would not give that power to any government — American, Chinese, or otherwise. Wikileaks and Assange and Snowden, sure, knock yourself out, but do you really want to trust the Chinese Communist Party to do better with handling those sorts of things than the United States government? It just feels like an inconsistent argument to me.
The chinese government simply doesn't censor any top-secret documents normally in the west if somebody were to publish top-secret doc the US-MIL aka NSA/CIA would order them to "Take it Down"
In the case of CHINA when USA say's "JUMP" the chinese just start laughing.
They may behave that way today (and to be clear I’m not even agreeing with your point that they do), but there’s no certainty that they would continue to feel the same way tomorrow. That’s the only point I’m trying to make.
> Even if this is true, isn’t it concerning that a government could have control of what content is or is not elevated on a certain platform?
It is, and I am much more concerned about my own government's actions in this regard than I am of China's.
Fair enough. I disagree, but I can respect that this is where you come down on it.
China's ascendency to over-take the West was put in motion by Rothschilds in 1820's - I have written much on this history from then to now; Years ago when China opened I went to live in Shanghai, I did martial arts in the morning with these 80 year old guys, many could still speak english from when in 1920's the USA/US-MIL had occupied China, put all their women on opium made them into whores and the men into coolies; I would listen to their storys learned much, I already knew the story because I had studied Rex Applegates "Kill or Be killed" the book for special-forces on how to kill in ASIA; Written during that era when US-MIL had to kill first and ask questions later;
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Hardly BUSH, CLINTON in 1990's did the "Pivot to ASIA" where CIA pivoted to join CSB ( china CIA ), because the CIA-Mossad-CSB-KGB are all Pinkertons for the Rothschild bank and CIA was told that by 2025 the US-Dollar would be worthless so they had to pivot-to-asia to secure 'base' so they could procure and launder Chinese money aka YUAN;
BUSH-2 just carried water, but all this goes back to RAYGUN and even in 1950's Rockefeller original plan was to 'reset' USA by 2025, Rockefeller began in 1840's in Shanghai trading "Whale Oil" for Rothschild bank, this has always been about "CHINA"
Increase your dosage.
Please sir ZOG, may I have another dickcheese sandwich?? PLease
What point are you trying to make with the term “sodomite state”?
Who ordered "SODOMY" I will post some old links on the USA history and Sodomy;
Even the slaves originally white, later black all the ZOG owners would 'break the buck' on arrival, buck meant you man-slave, and breaking the buck meant to tie him to a hitching post and drop his pants and ass-fuck him in front of all the other slaves, and they would keep doing that until the 'buck' was broken
Original settlement in USA by the "PILGRIMS" (ZOG) was white slave debtors from UK, brought to USA as slaves for life even their children were slaves, and the men worked and the women were whores for the PILGRIM(ZOG) colonists; Not until the late 1600's were blacks brought in because the ZOG got bored of fucking whites, and wanted to mix it up; During that time the whites now six generations of slavery began to rebel, so over time the slaves became mostly 'black' and the SCOTUS had codified in USA that 'blacks' were not human, so there was no questioning their slavery or their murder;
Deep-State is Sodomite State, always has been since 1871 when London took ownership of Wash-DC
Today Rinos are sodomites and demoRats are pedophiles
Todays US-GOV is ran by Operation-Paperclip Legacy Nazi's who were 100% homosexual, thus the push for pedophile normalization;
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The deep state is all about 'buggery' that comes from UK London owners,
We even call the USSA, the USSA because "United Sodomite States of America" goes back to the Pilgrim days when ashekeNAZI ( now zionists ) first arrived in 'america'; Then & now they were all sodomites;
Microsoft only holds a minority stake in Open AI LLC. The majority ownership of Open AI LLC is OpenAI Inc, a non profit corporation, which is managed by a board of directors including Bret Taylor, Larry Summers, and Adam D'Angelo. All three board members support Sam Altman, who is still the CEO of Open AI LLC, despite briefly being removed from that position by a previous board of Open AI Inc.
While MS might hold a minority in open-ai 'stock' ( worthless IMHO as they have no 'moat' ), but they own the tech, cuz they paid for it, dumb suckers, but hell obviously the NSA didn't trust open-ai in the long term so they moved the crap to MS
Microsoft recently spent over $100M on acquiring most of the technology and most of their engineers bailed after the coup
MUSK is now suing open-ai for breach of contract
1.) they are not open
2.) they were never chartered to be woke
3.) they were always told to do good, and not become little bitches of NSA-DOD/CIA
They have failed all three
but all is good cuz at Microsoft its been 100% NSA since Gates sold out to US-GOV back in the mid 1990's in fear of losing his monopoly on windows and losing an anti-trust case, MS went on to become king of the world and NSA got to be on every windows platform deployed abroad
winning
> Bytedance is basically a CCP cutout.
This is classic Meme Magic.
> American teens are fed a steady diet of detrimental content.
What percentage of the total content viewed by teens is detrimental?
Good piece overall. But wow, the takeaway and data cherrypicking in the second to last paragraph is tough to see from a usually objective writer.
Nate states, "For instance, given the relatively small numbers — in advance of the 2016 election, Russian agents 'published more than 131,000 messages on Twitter and uploaded over 1,000 videos to Google’s YouTube service.'" Wow, you might say, that really isn't much!
But following the very link that Nate cites, the headline is "Russian Influence Reached 126 Million Through Facebook Alone." Talk about burying the lede! In other words, researchers were able to verify that AT LEAST one third of all Americans saw propaganda from a SINGLE country through a SINGLE social media site. Unfortunately, here Nate purposefully omitted the Facebook results, only citing Twitter and Youtube, in order to support his narrative, while ignoring the actual point of the article and study. Not a great look.
Analogy: If an article that said, "Climate change impacts: record highs across the globe, except in Branson, Missouri," and Nate cited the studying, saying, "I'm skeptical of climate change - this study showed that Branson was actually 1 degree cooler this year!" that would be a major issue.
Further, we have to assume that these numbers are the bare minimum - those that this single study was able to fully verify. It might be fair to assume that there could be two, five, even twenty times more propaganda out there that researchers were unable to find or fully verify. The whole goal of propaganda, after all, is to not be found.
Further, that study only looks at 3 social media sites. What about others, such as Reddit, which has an infamous reputation for being a source of foreign interference? Not to mention 4chan, Instagram, comments on news articles, and so many others.
Lastly, that study references only Russian information - a single country. How much misinformation is being pushed by the many other countries who want to see a destabilized US? China, Iran, Iraq, and so many others?
Nate may be skeptical of the amount foreign misinformation, but using his own source here, even without going further with common sense extrapolation, it suggests that misinformation is, indeed, a massive problem. It's concerning that Nate misrepresented the findings of the NYTimes article.
Nate, let the data inform your opinions on this, don't let your opinions inform the data. This is your whole appeal as a journalist.
Same article you’re quoting:
“Facebook cautioned that the Russia-linked posts represented a minuscule amount of content compared with the billions of posts that flow through users’ News Feeds everyday. Between 2015 and 2017, people in the United States saw more than 11 trillion posts from Pages on Facebook.”
Sounds an awful lot like the “drop-in-the-bucket” point Nate was making.
Similar for Twitter and YouTube. Facebook also referenced $100k in ad revenue, which really doesn’t sound like a lot to me.
I also don’t see NYT’s own 126m impressions figure corroborated anywhere else in their own article past that lede. They do reference 29m impressions between Jan. ‘15 and Aug. ‘17, the latter of which is of course almost a year after the 2016 election.
Also interesting that you’re concerned with the cold hard facts of this article, but then implore us to consider these figures to be conservative estimates. Which one is it? Misinformation is bad, except when the assumption of information might help your point?
I don’t like to argue meanly or in bad faith, but I don’t feel that your comment was in good faith itself. In responding to an article concerned with the political calculus of the United States banning TikTok, you accuse the author of misrepresenting an article he quoted by misrepresenting the article he quoted, all in the name of fighting misinformation, the proliferation of which is one of the primary reasons we’re talking about TikTok in the first place. Impressive rhetorical calisthenics, if I do say so myself. But not really that helpful in the grand scheme of things. Please do better.
Clinton ran an awful campaign and the 24 year status quo of wars free trade , the Washington consensus, pissed off enough people to put the real estate guy in the White House
"researchers were able to VERIFY that X people saw Y..."
These researchers are either lying or hallucinating (due to the norms of the culture they were raised in, I'd bet).
> Lastly, that study references only Russian information ....
If you read the article more closely (dig into sources, etc) you may notice that what they are actually describing is Western claims/perceptions of "Russian" misinformation, not genuine known(!) Russian actions.
This world runs on Allism, I wouldn't expect accuracy from people who lack the ability to generate it, especially if they are paid to do (or profit from) the opposite.
> Good piece overall. But wow, the takeaway and data cherrypicking in the second to last paragraph is tough to see from a usually objective writer.
Watching genuinely smart people failing at thinking is one of the funnest ways to play this game we are all in! ;)
A point of clarification with word usage. “It’s one thing to have your phone lines jammed by constituents, but another if it’s teenagers with a rabid TikTok habit.” Constituents are all people represented by legislators, including teenagers.
Uuuhhhhhh come on Nate, Russian "misinformation" is about Buttery Males. Misinformation is a bad term for this- Russian influence in 2016 wasn't problematic because social media posts had a big impact on the electorate but rather Russia's leaks of highly sensitive (if rather benign) personal messages. It's not misinformation Russia was good at in 2016, it was doxxing.
Except the evidence Russia leaked information is lacking , whereas evidence of federal officials illegally leaking information about Trump in 2016 is pretty clear
Eh? The evidence is only lacking if you believe Russia over the US intelligence community.
What illegal information was leaked about Trump?
> Eh? The evidence is only lacking if you believe Russia over the US intelligence community.
Incorrect. The truth value of evidence genuinely lacking is independent of " if you believe Russia over the US intelligence community". You are describing the realm of belief (typically referred to as "the reality" in our culture, completely unironically lol), not the realm of knowledge.
In July 2018, USDOJ indicted 12 Russian GRU officers for their involvement in the cyber operations against the 2016 U.S. election. The indictment detailed how the officers allegedly hacked into the email accounts of staff members of Hillary Clinton’s campaign, including the chairman John Podesta, and the DNC, and then released stolen emails through websites like DCLeaks and Guccifer 2.0, and later through WikiLeaks.
So yes, it comes down to whether you believe the US intelligence community or Russia. You know who believes Russia? https://youtu.be/wBwgxHnlhqo?si=uBwbAI6nopOOR8UK
Make that 11 indictments, when one of those accused showed the fed dropped the charges for lack of evidence. I am sure the other 11 are rock solid as well.
So everything DOJ does is politically motivated with no basis in fact?
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/knowledge-analysis/
Have you read that article, yes or no?
No, what is true is independent of what people think is true. You are referring to ~cultural truth, aka belief.
I would still argue the most consequential #fakenews of the 2016 cycle was Brett Baier reporting that Hillary’s indictment was imminent within two weeks of Election Day. And Baier got it from the Keystone Cop Andrew McCabe who fed Baier information ostensibly to make the FBI look better?!? Trump was correct to say Comey/McCabe deserved to be fired…but you don’t fire Comey/McCabe without a replacement better than Wray! WTF??
Besides his tax returns , that he and his associates were being investigated for Russian connections. Keep in mind it was Harry Reid who lent credence to the Russia hoax in October 2016 using information funneled to him.
Because tiktok is the new wiki-leaks and censors nothing and its driving the RINO/demoRAT deep-state ( sodomite state ) nutz
Nate’s comment section stoops to new lows
The issue is one specific person that clearly needs to be banned, but instead is being allowed to mass post conspiracy theories about the NSA firing Sam Altman. He has literally been at this for multiple hours.
Using GPTs to crack encryption actually seems not that implausible. You can experiment yourself with simple ciphers like caesar and write custom instructions to let GPT-4 crack it. It's of course bullshit to think that you can hack AES by simple prompt, but you can instead use GPT for different purposes, for example you may employ some form of cryptanalysis to produce chunks of partially deciphered examples and then use GPT to scan them to spot ones with promising patterns. Recent language models have big context lengths which could allow to solve such tasks more efficiently. ML had been used to crack ciphers for long time, even in past century, it's quite often about language statistics, co-occurence of certain word/character patterns - all that stuff that LLMs are actually quite good at (as they are large language models after all).
Could you translate into American English please?
I will send you a link to picture, since you can't read
The sheer brass neck of the CCP, spreading pro-Palestinian propaganda to try and destabilise the west, at the same time as it ethnically cleanses its own Uyghurs.
Dream a little dream baby...or two!
If this law does not pass, then in a generation or two there is a chance that China will dominate extensive parts of the world and treat citizens there as it treats the Uighur Muslims. This might sound exaggerated, but the achievements of Chinese propaganda with TikTok in turning an entire generation against everything America represents are unprecedented.
Seriously you ever been to Tibet, or CHina, or Uighur?
ALl you know is CIA bullshit;
I tell you all this, the worst place on earth is any USA city where humans live in shit all drugged out like zombies
All of CHINA is like Disneys "Tomorrowland" since 1990's and there ain't no crime or no homeless or people living in shit on the sidewalks, and say in DALI (YUNAN) and old woman at the market openly sell marijuana, cuz nobody abuses it;
Have you ever considered a lot of American ideology is a cesspit of rot? China has major issues with authoritarianism, but I'd rather are youth have Chinese values than American values.
It's weird to try and position people's horror at Israel's genocide as an example of TikTok misinformation. If the opinion about war crimes in Gaza feels a tad one-sided on TikTok, it's because the issue is one-sided. The crimes being committed and the genocidal motivation behind them are happening in full view of the entire world, and the reaction online needs no misinformation conspiracy to explain it.
The issue is not Bytedance being under the control of the CCP. My guess is that any videos pushing propaganda and disproportionately surfaced by the algorithm have minimal effect on the long term thinking for teens. Also, what useless data could the CCP be siphoning that is not already obvious (names, photos, contact details of users that every other company has access to)? The real issue is that a large percentage of teens and young adults do and will continue to waste 2+ hours on TikTok daily…that’s an “us” problem moving towards Idiocracy (the TikTok interface seems to have ripped off Mike Judge’s vision from the movie where people consume empty content. I’ve never understood the debate around whether or not to ban the app or force a transfer of ownership; how does that solve the problem of social media app algorithms, generally…
Congresspersons may be useless in passing meaningful legislation, but if Bytedance was an actual threat our intelligence agencies would have stepped in and forced Congress’ hand to act. Therefore, it may not be a political
issue to Nate because neither party can claim a win, but the fact that neither party can claim a win is what makes it political in my mind - true bipartisan national security issues tend to be handled, even if messy. This bill will not reach Biden’s desk.
Zuckerberg is somehow behind this.
He “fortified” the last election, why not this one too?
...is it a good or bad thing for the US government to own tiktok...or microsoft...are these wheels of money or influence?...and if influence what does that say about any social media tool that it can be "mass" adopted (ie; unbreakable)?...if the means to control a message/mind are this simple, haven't we all already lost (add A.I. and Apple 'BationMasks)?...we should ban Warner Brothers too while we have the chance (largely for screwing up the live action scooby doos)...
Obviously there is disinformation in the US social media but it is usually propagated by Americans, often amplified with bot farms and the like.
Hey I bought & read you books, I'm a statistical physics person.
California is still counting votes from Super Tuesday. It's been 10 days, and they are still counting. Liberals believe this is normal and not insane.
What frustrates me is the fact that the average age for government is between 55-65. The majority of TikTok users are people between the ages of 13-35. Of course priorities are going to be completely different. The USA is also in this weird twilight zone era where we are asking people who BARELY know how to use a smartphone to make complicated policy on apps that they have absolutely zero understanding of how it works.
The Mark interview with the government was a prime example of how out of touch and clueless our government representatives are. On top of the fact, privacy is virtually non-existent with the internet now-a-days. Between tracking algorithms and cookies between Amazon, Google, all social media, etc. privacy is dead. People want to scream "but TikTok spies!" so does Google, so does Amazon.