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OK, I will admit this is a very Substack-y Substack post.

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If so, it is (by a substantial margin) the best discussion I have seen of the topic. Doesn't open my eyes at all, but gives me a language and a framework to describe and discuss something I obviously also have been seeing as a non-identarian boring Obama democrat.

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Ditto...I was a center-right Republican until my late 30s then drifted left over issues like abortion and gay marriage. Ending up either very center or slightly left of center (I work at a college so even being slightly center left feels very conservative). Recently I felt like I had zero in common with either party.

I really appreciate this take on politics because it gets at what is wrong with both parties in my opinion. They are both completely willing to adopt totalitarian practices, just for different reasons.

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Similar though I made my transition a little earlier. I work in state government so my place is more conservative (I consider myself the second most left person at the office). This triangle helps me understand why I still get along with all my colleagues in spite of who we voted for in 2020, because we all gravitate towards the “liberal” point of the triangle.

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Like the majority of the electorate, your subjectivity concerning where “left“ and is on the spectrum is relative to the light-years off the right end of the bell graph of the GOP. If you support anything the current democratic party advocates for, you are moderate right. You are a corporate oligarchy and enabling fascist. Bernie is the only single person in Congress that has both feet left of center. Elizabeth Warren AOC Katie Porter they all have maybe 1 foot completely over the centerline. none of the words used to describe political positions and ideologies are used correctly in this country. Which is as it should be because we obviously suck at politik. I don’t know a damn thing about it. So American we don’t defer to the professionals. We listen to our plumber and Mechanic about political science. Why not we listen to them about climate science as well.....

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Fine then I’m center right. My family fled communism so even though I’m ok with *democratic socialism* (edit: should be "social democracy" as I learned in future comments), I'm skeptical about its efficacy so I feel little appeal for it. That said I’m nowhere near fascist even if I’m more sympathetic towards corporations than you’d prefer. Be careful with using that term too widely, it will only dilute its meaning, as has happened with the word rascist.

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I voted for Ron DeSantis to be governor of Florida, not ambassador to Israel . . .

The recently ousted Speaker of the US House of Representatives Kevin McCarthy, who took at least a dozen votes to get elected speaker, traveled to Israel immediately upon his election, declaring to the Israeli Knesset that the USA is steadfastly committed to supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia.

Was Kevin McCarthy trying to be speaker of the Israeli Knesset too?

It has become so painfully obvious, especially where you have someone like Nikki Haley wagging her finger and shouting down Vivek Ramaswamy in a presidential debate on live national television when the questions of this Ukrainian war against Russia and any mention of Israel are concerned, that the United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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You are engaging with a knucklehead. But that's okay.

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There’s no way I can pollute the cesspool that is the political verbiage of America. None of it is used correctly.

For example, social democracy which I advocate for is not the same as democratic socialism. North Korea for instance.

If you would be so kind, please clarify your statement concerning efficacy. I mean all of the high quality of life first world countries are basically social democracies. Almost without exception. Actually, there is no exception other than somebody like Luxenberg who is so small and the entire country is part of the royal court.

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I voted for Ron DeSantis to be governor of Florida, not ambassador to Israel . . . fuck you and your Jewish god.

The recently ousted Speaker of the US House of Representatives Kevin McCarthy, who took at least a dozen votes to get elected speaker, traveled to Israel immediately upon his election, declaring to the Israeli Knesset that the USA is steadfastly committed to supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia.

Was Kevin McCarthy trying to be speaker of the Israeli Knesset too?

It has become so painfully obvious, especially where you have someone like Nikki Haley wagging her finger and shouting down Vivek Ramaswamy in a presidential debate on live national television when the questions of this Ukrainian war against Russia and any mention of Israel are concerned, that the United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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Agreed. Reading this helped me understand my own feelings about pre-Oct 7 as well as post. I thought I was Progressive until I was told that I was a person with a vagina and not a woman. Then I learned that despite being born in poverty and succeeding on my own intelligence I benefited from White Privilege because I'm Jewish despite my middle eastern DNA.

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Out of curiosity, who has been telling you you're not a woman? Traditional progressives will say anyone with a vagina is a woman (or, at least, anyone with XX chromosomes), while "woke" progressives will say anyone who says they're a woman is a woman.

Is there some third type of progressive you're referring to here?

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I think the issue is *replacement* of "woman" with "person with vagina".

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Is this common in progressive circles? It certainly is not in any of the progressive circles I have encountered in either of the two countries I have lived in (USA and Australia). I have only seen it in very specific contexts, typically of a medical nature (e.g., to emphasize that transmen still need to get regular gynecological exams). In normal social discourse, "woman" is still commonly used; the term's borders are just drawn differently for a very small percentage of the population. The vast, vast majority of women are called women by both conservatives and progressives.

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Thought it was great. Now we just need some data around voter distribution across the three body problem.

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In what the late Saddam Hussein once dubbed “the great Satan,” roughly two-thirds of the United States enlisted military corps is white . . .

The fat, bulbous U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin once confirmed in a 93-2 vote of the U.S. Senate, immediately embarked on a whirlwind media tour of duty, telling the pseudo-secular sycophants in the state-controlled tabloid press and state-controlled television talk show circuit about how the U.S. Army is full of bad racist white men.

And now the U.S. Army is doing ads begging for more young white males? What happened?

Even with a full-on declaration of war from Congress, and even if Gavin Newsome could be cheated into the Oval Office by ZOG somehow, with Globohomo diversity brigades going door-to-door looking to impress American children into military service, they will be met with armed, well-trained opposition, the invasion at the Southern border is going full tilt, and the drugs are flowing in like never before . . .

People are done fighting wars for these psychotic kikesucking Zionist ass-whores . . . With the borders of Europe and the USA wide open, civil warfare within the USA, Britain, and most of Europe is a certainty if foreign wars are initiated. Nobody is going to fight a war for Biden, he is dumber than Bush . . . Nobody is going to fight a war for that kikesucking Zionist ass-whore Nikki Haley, and I mean nobody.

Get ready for it . . . the fat old devil worshipping fags on Capitol Hill, on Wall Street, in Whitehall, and in Brussels are in no shape to fight a war themselves, and most Americans are armed to the teeth with their own guns . . .

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/satanism-is-a-jewish-cult

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Well that was certainly something.

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Get ready for it . . . the fat old devil worshipping fags on Capitol Hill, on Wall Street, in Whitehall, and in Brussels are in no shape to fight a war themselves, and most Americans are armed to the teeth with their own guns . . .

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/satanism-is-a-jewish-cult

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Not even sure what that means.

But as someone who also writes about these subjects, I will say that this piece was good enough to actually make me feel kind of frustrated: "Why didn't I write that?"

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In what the late Saddam Hussein once dubbed “the great Satan,” roughly two-thirds of the United States enlisted military corps is white . . .

The fat, bulbous U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin once confirmed in a 93-2 vote of the U.S. Senate, immediately embarked on a whirlwind media tour of duty, telling the pseudo-secular sycophants in the state-controlled tabloid press and state-controlled television talk show circuit about how the U.S. Army is full of bad racist white men.

And now the U.S. Army is doing ads begging for more young white males? What happened?

Even with a full-on declaration of war from Congress, and even if Gavin Newsome could be cheated into the Oval Office by ZOG somehow, with Globohomo diversity brigades going door-to-door looking to impress American children into military service, they will be met with armed, well-trained opposition, the invasion at the Southern border is going full tilt, and the drugs are flowing in like never before . . .

People are done fighting wars for these psychotic kikesucking Zionist ass-whores . . . With the borders of Europe and the USA wide open, civil warfare within the USA, Britain, and most of Europe is a certainty if foreign wars are initiated. Nobody is going to fight a war for Biden, he is dumber than Bush . . . Nobody is going to fight a war for that kikesucking Zionist ass-whore Nikki Haley, and I mean nobody.

Get ready for it . . . the fat old devil worshipping fags on Capitol Hill, on Wall Street, in Whitehall, and in Brussels are in no shape to fight a war themselves, and most Americans are armed to the teeth with their own guns . . .

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/satanism-is-a-jewish-cult

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A very Substack-y Substack post would be one of those posts where one talks about social media, especially Substack.

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“Oh how fond they are of the book of Esther, which is so beautifully attuned to their bloodthirsty, vengeful, murderous yearning and hope.” — Martin Luther

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/zelensky-biden-satanism-war-greed

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“I fear the Jewish bankers with their craftiness and torturous tricks will entirely control the exuberant riches of America and use it to systematically corrupt modern civilization. The Jews will not hesitate to plunge the whole of Christendom into wars and chaos so that the earth should become their inheritance.” ― Otto Von Bismark

https://cwspangle.substack.com/i/135302021/in-the-shadow-of-war-ukraine-as-the-great-reset-laboratory-of-the-global-tech-elite

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“In Washington right next to the Holocaust Museum is the Federal Reserve where they print the money. Is that an accident?” ― Louis Farrakhan

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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How Does a Jew Get to Heaven from Dry Humping the Wailing Wall like Miley Cyrus?

https://cwspangle.substack.com/i/138320669/how-does-a-jew-get-to-heaven-from-dry-humping-the-wailing-wall-like-miley-cyrus

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The substack-iest post! Thanks!

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I’m very happy I never subscribed to your Substack. You were wrong in 2008 about Obama’s insurmountable delegate lead because superdelegates could have made Hilary the nominee and superdelegates were in the rules and legitimate. And you are wrong about NPIs because the data clearly shows they slowed spread to some degree which is why Hawaii has the lowest Covid death rate and AZ that did the fewest NPIs for a large state has the highest Covid death rate. And you are wrong about the pardon of Hunter because Republicans have won taking the low road and the Durham prosecutions show what Trump is capable of!! Thankfully I don’t have to ask for my money back because I never gave you any!!

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Very substack-y, and I think needing more data (didn't pew do a breakdown on voter subgroups?)

I'd like to know how the Political landscape is changing as a % of population along the SLJ/Socialist/Liberal lines.

Also curious how much the events that led to the trial were triggered by an increase in 'SLJ' vs would have occurred anyway 20 years ago, given the same war.

Maybe could look broadly on how the US has changed its views on Palestine over the years. Or the degree and ways students protest every US war.

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This is a fascinating read! It really highlights the complexities of our current political landscape. I've recently penned a piece that delves into the political divide we're experiencing in the country and explores potential avenues for finding common ground. I believe it could offer additional perspectives to this discussion. Check it out here: [https://open.substack.com/pub/dsc007/p/the-untruth-of-emotional-reasoning?r=1mx14f&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web]. I'm eager to hear your thoughts and engage in a meaningful dialogue!

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Well I'm having the same reaction that I did to the post that made me a Scott Alexander devotee, and he is the Substackiest person I'm aware of, so yeah I'd say it is :)

But seriously, thank you for writing this post. I see it's already been said, but this was a great crystallization of ideas that have been floating strongly but vaguely around my head the past year or two. I couldn't have hoped to come even close. I think for the new year I'm going to resolve to completely detach from political analysis and discussion, and anyone who tries to have a political discussion with me is a getting a link to this post and a polite changing of the subject.

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Finally subscribed because of this post. Thank you.

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There's a common model in political theory that there are three fundamental values: order; freedom; equality. These values cannot be reduced to each other nor wholly reconciled with each other. What your “ideology” is is mostly a reflection of which value you instinctively value most. If you value order most, you're broadly a conservative; if you value freedom most, you're broadly a liberal; if you value equality most, you're broadly a socialist (including “SJLs” etc).

Once you have this three-value model you can relate it to other things. It looks a lot like the traditional monarchy–oligarchy–democracy model of ancient Greek political philosophy. It also looks a lot like a hierarchy of needs, where equality pre-supposes freedom pre-supposes order; that is, you can't build a free society unless you already have a minimum degree of order, and you can't build an equal society unless you already have a minimum degree of freedom. All in all it's a useful model that I think more people should adopt.

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It's also worth noting that there are vastly different notions of equality. Most today in the West would support equality under the law and equality of opportunity. Here is the problem for the highly educated Left- most people are hardwired for equality as fairness, rather than in terms of equality of outcome.

It's why the Left abandoned the blue collar or working class, because their values were fundamentally opposed to the imposition of equality of outcome- they wanted a fair shake, not socialism to equalise income levels. Free market societies do produce inequalities, but they also produce the types of opportunities which cause the proles to abandon the dream of socialist utopias. This is also why it was also inevitable that the SJL would emerge- only by grossly exaggerating the perception of unfairness along arbitrary lines could they resurrect the dream of a state-run society in which intellectuals would be elevated to decision-making roles, or at least to that of an advisory apparatchik.

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It is ironic. When I survey my friends and coworkers, the main political indicator is social class. The poorer their background the more likely they are to be conservative. The richer their background the farther left they swing.

Of course age and education fit into as well. But it's always funny when blue collar folks breaking their backs making $50k are sure that taxes are the devil. While the dudes making $300k are like whatever, this dumb country needs more services.

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The irony is there are some forms of redistribution which are good. Where the Left fails is on creating programs which are too broad. A good example would be the expanded child tax credit. Up to about five it was a good idea. Alleviating meal deprivation and/or increasing parental engagement can have a benefit to both IQ and in terms of future criminality/life planning, but beyond that point it was really just a waste. Conservatives would push back on the first statement because there is no guarantee the extra money would be spent on the child's welfare, but if only 30% of single mothers entitled to this payment spent it on preventing meal deprivation then it would more than pay for itself through future increased earnings, labour participation and costs to the taxpayer through future court costs/incarceration.

The irony is that faction of the Democratic Party which has been in power for some time has been most harmful to blue collar interests- like the centre Right they are neoliberal and open society pro-migration. Sure, a lot of labour dislocation is bad trade deals, offshoring and automation, but every immigration system which is not the somewhat older Australian system, with its blue collar protections, has failed massively for the simple reasons that research on the role of migration on the socio-economic spectrum shows that migration lowers incomes for the bottom part of the spectrum whilst making people in the top 20% richer.

With wealthy people it's about alleviating class guilt (even though most Americans don't think they have a class system, one has emerged in the past 30 years, through educational commodification). They also don't have to live with the consequences of their luxury beliefs- the immigrants who live in their communities tend to be of the very good kind which everybody should be in favour of- high knowledge and able to integrate exceptionally well.

These days Western societies tend to be like Greek columns with a lintel at the top. The columns don't tend to integrate and even choose self-segregation when economic ghettoization is not in effect, whilst the 'lintel' highly educated open to new experience cosmopolitan types are quite happy to mingle- for them its always been more about shared interests and intellectual pursuits rather than culture.

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This part I'd say is less ironic, and I agree. Wealthier Americans see immigrants as people in need, and arguably good for the economy as a whole. Poor Americans see immigrants as direct competition for jobs and entitlements.

Poor Americans are completely correct. The fewer poor people there are the more we will value their labor and care for their children. Inviting more into the country means creating surplus. Same with offshoring, of course.

Wealthier Americans are correct that immigrants are "people in need", and therefore kind of see them the same way they see poor Americans. I'm not sure if they're good for the economy as a whole. You say it makes the people at the top 20% richer, but what is left after accounting for educational spending? Of course, they would be right to point out that the supply of workers-- especially young workers-- is pretty thin.

Anyway, I think immigration is a sperate question from wealth redistribution as a whole. It's worth talking about, but Democrats and Republicans have always been mixed on immigration.

And if you're trying to talk about working-class people, I don't think it's as big a deal as things like medicare, medicaid, social security, public schools, and social security disability. The entitlements just add up to a lot more money than whatever you lose from having a bunch of workers in town.

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You just don’t get any of this. First of all they can spend it on whatever the fuck they want second of all, the socialist welfare money that is a waste is the 97% of the budget forked over to corporations not the 2.5% shared with our fellow citizens. You’re pathetic

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Rude. And a troll.

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You just said “fossil fuel is not toxic”

I don’t know where the laugh or cry. All I can say is, the amount of effort it took to become that stupid is truly impressive. Would argue it would’ve been better spin on something else but hey, impressive nonetheless…..

Second only to your lack of shame and moral decency.

Your next glass of Canadian Tar sands crude in on me bruh….

Neat or on the rocks?

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Truth is it rude to the people in the altfacts universe

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Obviously I’m not, Bob. I am disseminating truth and that is blatantly obvious otherwise, fake ass silicon chip cyber accounts like you would not come out of the woodwork attacking me.

Ad hominem bullshit, projection, and lies are all you’ve got Bobby. Lame.

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That is not my experience. The blue collar folks I see contribute to charities, food banks, their communities and are intensely aware of and concerned about likely fragile future "outcomes." They support taxing the wealthy and building up infrastructure. They are economic progressives--albeit social conservatives. Those $300k dudes fret over their children getting up the pipeline from posh private schools to the Ivy League and into overweening executive positions. They couldn't care less about public services or the environment.

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I mean, it depends on the friends you keep. My friends are charitable, but obviously there are charitable and uncharitable people in every class. It's just the politics that I find funny.

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Oh my God you couldn’t be more disconnected from the reality of the body politic if you tried. First of all, there is no “free market” in the United States

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I agree there is no free market in America, but that's hardly the fault of market systems or fallacies like late stage capitalism. The prevention of markets happens for three reasons.

1) State control.

2) Government making it difficult for new entrants into the market, usually through the construction of a system of regulatory barriers.

3) The East India Company problem. Government failing to ensure that there are a sufficient of competitors in each sector of the economy, usually, but not always, through a failure to prevent monopolies and mergers.

All of these are government failings, not market failings- and they usually arise from the failure of institutional government, not failures implicit to political parties, other than those who espouse totalitarian end-states, like socialism or fascism.

Ad if you don't believe me, then why is it that in every area where free markets exists products have either gotten better or cheaper, whilst in every area where government exerts the greatest amount of control products and services have gotten worse or become more expensive? In the US, healthcare, housing and education all fall into the latter category.

There are some things that voters decide they want, but even then the optimum solution is publicly commissioned, privately provided, with a few rare exceptions like prisons, police and the courts. A great example would be universal healthcare. The NHS is state-run. Australia's system is publicly commissioned, privately run. Guess which system has seven times as many hospital beds, and enjoys markedly superior health outcomes?

Here's a hint- it's not the UK.

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Wait a minute, are you insinuating that healthcare, housing and education are free market in the United States? I mean, I need to know what your claim is before I completely blow it out of the water. Because if that is the case, you could not be more mistaken there is not a single free market in United States unless you’re at the vegetable stand on a farmers market Saturday morning.

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I voted for Ron DeSantis to be governor of Florida, not ambassador to Israel . . . fuck you and your jewish god . . .

The recently ousted Speaker of the US House of Representatives Kevin McCarthy, who took at least a dozen votes to get elected speaker, traveled to Israel immediately upon his election, declaring to the Israeli Knesset that the USA is steadfastly committed to supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia.

Was Kevin McCarthy trying to be speaker of the Israeli Knesset too?

It has become so painfully obvious, especially where you have someone like Nikki Haley wagging her finger and shouting down Vivek Ramaswamy in a presidential debate on live national television when the questions of this Ukrainian war against Russia and any mention of Israel are concerned, that the United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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Your attempt at incitement is fucking lame douche canoe fair that is not only outside of the first a minute umbrella, it is a fucking felony. Since your own fake ass Netanyahu cock sucking sock puppet. The person behind it should suffer the same fate. Morally bankrupt feces filled skin bag is not a good attic

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No, I'm saying that education, housing and healthcare are the three areas where American exercises the greatest degree of state control.

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No different than any other market sector actually agriculture, specifically dairy, energy, and education have at least as much influence if not more. For sure agriculture and energy.

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"completely blow it put of the water"? What is wrong with you?

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I do believe you are confusing UniversalHealthcare with socialized medicine. They are nothing alike and not even correlated other than fall under the same public policy. You have socialized medicine. You don’t understand or experience at least #UniversalHealthcare.

You are correct concerning the markets no doubt. That’s why your provider in the facility should be in an absolutely free market concerning healthcare. There are three things that are socialized in first world civilized high quality of life countries.

Incarceration

Healthcare insurance

Public education... through post graduate if earned

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I voted for Ron DeSantis to be governor of Florida, not ambassador to Israel . . . fuck you and your jewish god . . .

The recently ousted Speaker of the US House of Representatives Kevin McCarthy, who took at least a dozen votes to get elected speaker, traveled to Israel immediately upon his election, declaring to the Israeli Knesset that the USA is steadfastly committed to supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia.

Was Kevin McCarthy trying to be speaker of the Israeli Knesset too?

It has become so painfully obvious, especially where you have someone like Nikki Haley wagging her finger and shouting down Vivek Ramaswamy in a presidential debate on live national television when the questions of this Ukrainian war against Russia and any mention of Israel are concerned, that the United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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Most American questions surrounding government exist across binary poles. Should it be bigger or smaller, or should it limit its power or engage in more intervention.

Better questions are how does it act and who does it serve? Most Western governments are now faced with the inevitable question of what should they do now that they've hit a spending wall- ie their citizens will no longer tolerate much further taxation for themselves.

The easy answer is tax the rich, but it's never worked so far. All of the socialised medicine countries I can think of rely heavily on VAT (consumption taxes) to fund public healthcare. Things like food, babycare products and other essentials are excluded, but on most consumer goods and services one pays a tax of around 20% which is charged by retailer but paid for by the consumer.

The real dilemma facing most developed countries is how to radically transform institutional government to better serve the people. It's not something most politicians want to admit because it's a project which is almost certainly doomed to failure.

For example, American public education spending is directly proportional to GDP/PPP for other OECD countries- you spend exactly the same as a proportion of wealth generated as all the other countries. Yet you lose a significant amount on private procurement and around 7% of the total on the school districting system. Are you going to tell the politicians they need to stop buddying up to educational suppliers, or the bureaucrats at the school board that you're moving to a voluntary unpaid parental board of governors system.

One of the easiest kinds of reform you could do would be to shift to a AYE system. It would mean that every American who works for an employer would hardly have to have any interaction or fear of your internal revenue service. You wouldn't need to hire 70,000 new agents for the simple reason that the ones already there would be able to focus in on the 10%, usually at the top, who have additional income or can afford the experts to engage in questionable accountancy practices that they should expect a proctol exam from the IRS, even though the 10% are the donor/culturally dominant class and wield far more general political power (as opposed to specific interests-based lobbying power), than the 90% and the 0.1% combined?

Most of decisions to prevent Western decline are more about how to radically change Western governments, rather than political parties. It would be the biggest internal reallocation of labour attempted since WWII and it would be fiercely resisted because nobody wants to give up a cushy office job filing papers for activities which might actually help people. That's why it will never happen.

Of course, there are exceptions. Ending corruption, corporate bailouts, introducing deregulatory mechanism which continue to protect consumers but reduce entry barriers. Did you know here in the UK we don't get ratshit in our turmeric? In America, there is a quota for how much ratshit is allowed in yours....

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Nobody understands the subject is advocating for socialized medicine.

Government outlay can be divided between expense and investment. In the United States, we allow our government to only do expenses. We don’t do investments.

Just like any other outlay by any other entity, the important point of it all is what you get for your money.

You are argument against the legislative mandate about adding the workforce in the IRS is moot. All you have to do is look at the history of the department and you will realize that it is the right thing to do.

The entire system needs revamped to an Eisenhower era bracket, with the same loophole closures. This isn’t rocket science. Go with what worked before. We had the most robust economy in the history of money during the eight years of Eisenhower. That’s not a coincidence.

You are assuming that the tax system only relates to the creation of revenue and treasury balances. Far from it. It can easily be in used to incentivize the right thing. Switching to renewables, becoming sustainable, on and on and on. I don’t think you understand what you’re talking about when it comes to those issues in America. People on the school board aren’t paid.

And someone with a Masters Degree in political science from a very esteemed University, you just sound like you’re winging it.

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Knucklehead.

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Rape and pillage is not capitalism. And you are denying, and they made it intentionally so, that there is any quality built into the system. What you are claiming as a political viewpoint is actually an uneducated ignorant piece of propaganda that the proletariat has been fed. By jackasses like you.

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You should read my comment more carefully. There is ample room for a critique of American capitalism along class-based lines, but there is almost no room for the type of identity pandering which inevitably sets brother against brother.

Plus, at the time that the Democrats abandoned the blue collar class for the demographics is destiny bullshit, it was mainly because of realpolitik. At the time, it was still actually fairly common for a skilled blue collar worker to set up a business or acquire a slice of the American Dream through a little hard work and grit.

The problem is the Democrats became increasingly trapped in their own paradigm. Their constituency became the college educated- a tenuous proposition given that even if you educate 50% of the population with at least some college, even the Germans can't push more than 30% of their population into highly educated roles- and they still have a manufacturing surplus economy (though they are likely to lose it because of their energy sector).

The Catholic Church has a name for a crisis within a constituency which exists on two poles with wildly different values, agendas and self-interests. It's called schism.

The only person who could prevent it was Bernie Sanders and the opportunity he presented is long gone.

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I’m not sure if you are advocating that Bernie should’ve been the nominee at some point or exactly what you mean by including him in your reply. He would’ve been the most ineffective executive in history. The chance that restoring the republic and make a significantly significant political and physical action towards climate crisis and bioremediation was missed by not nominating Elizabeth Warren. Bernie had great goals, absolutely no idea how to get there and as I mentioned earlier, as never built a coalition in his existence as a political being. Therefore, rendering him completely ineffective.

A dead giveaway that the correct candidate to either nominate or elect is when the entire establishment is against them. That’s more than a clue ....

Reason Bernie was allowed in the primary in 2020, the only reason Bloomberg jumped in when he did and the only reason Joe Biden got off the porch swing was to keep Miss Elizabeth Warren from occupying the seat behind the Lincoln Dest. The DNC and the powers that be are scared shitless of that woman. as well as Katie Porter, Sheldon Whitehouse AOC. Those are the people that should be running the country. Not having to bide their tongues to achieve a relevant committee assignments.

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Look there's a basic misconception about IPCC models which even about 50% of climate scientists share. We should have long since stopped using RCP or SSP 8.5 as the 'business as usual' model- both were based upon a massive expansion of global coal use for energy, mainly through economic development in the developing world.

The best predication for total climate change by 2100, including all temperature rise from climate change to date, rests around 3C. The best and only way to change this reality is to technologically innovate. China and India are set to become 70% of the world's total coal market through energy and neither is going to change their plans for the continued improvement of living standards for their citizens. Yes, both are developing nuclear and renewables, China has the Three Gorges Damn, but of this only accounts for a small fraction of their current and future energy requirements. The best thing we could do is help them develop natural gas as quickly as possible- at least then that's half the total carbon per energy unit produced.

Here's one interesting fact that's worth researching for yourself. The Tonga eruption was the single biggest warming weather event in recent history. Some papers are already playing down its significance- but a 10% increase in stratospheric water vapour circulating for a number of years really is quite dramatic in terms of watts per square meter. In many ways, we are being allowed a glimpse into the future to around 2050.

A couple of things to aware of. The world is fast approaching a somewhat hard silicon extraction capacity limit. The rate at which we produce solar PV is likely to hit the top of an s-curve. Wind energy is still far from peak production capacity and deployment and most rational analyses like Project Draw Down and the Copenhagen Consensus rate it a good investment, but the ceiling seems to be around 30% of total energy usage- beyond which infrastructure and energy storage to mitigate intermittence becomes economically unsustainable. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of pumped hydro, not least because it delivers cost-savings to customers, but there is a definable limit.

Most people baulk at nuclear. The Left cites the fact that it's expensive, the Right blames overregulation. Both are wrong. An MIT econometric engineering study showed that most of the costs are front-loaded into building first in a generation plants. Basically, it incurs a huge number of in-project design changes including, but not limited to, blowing up facilities because of design oversights. The Chinese have plans to build 230 large reactors. They will probably blow around 40% of their budget on the 21 they are already building. By then they will likely have the industrial and institutional experience to build them at a cheaper price than the French did when they built theirs more than a generation ago...

What happens usually in the West is politicians commission a single plant, then they fear looking like donkeys because of the huge expense, swearing never to do it again. It's the equivalent of making the first iPhone and then deciding the costs are too high to make any more.

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You lost all credibility with that bullshit. Leave. We’re through here. None of your claims concerning energy, the the atmosphere, or any other related issue or truth. They’re either blatantly your faults or twisted beyond the contextual recognition.

I must Block you now. I don’t engage with fossil fuel fellation tools.

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I voted for Ron DeSantis to be governor of Florida, not ambassador to Israel . . . fuck you and your jewish god . . .

The recently ousted Speaker of the US House of Representatives Kevin McCarthy, who took at least a dozen votes to get elected speaker, traveled to Israel immediately upon his election, declaring to the Israeli Knesset that the USA is steadfastly committed to supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia.

Was Kevin McCarthy trying to be speaker of the Israeli Knesset too?

It has become so painfully obvious, especially where you have someone like Nikki Haley wagging her finger and shouting down Vivek Ramaswamy in a presidential debate on live national television when the questions of this Ukrainian war against Russia and any mention of Israel are concerned, that the United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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First of all, I thought we had already established capitalism doesn’t exist in America.

The identity politics being projected by both parties at present and have been since the Reagan Era are simply to keep the proletariat fighting the culture wars as to not pick up the sword in the class war.

I continue our incorrect concerning the democratic party and their failure to consistently control government.

That isn’t happening is because of the Democratic arty does not bring good government nor quality policy to the table. Donor class tools just like the GOP.

When one cannot differentiate themselves from an opponent that is nothing more than an ongoing criminal enterprise in a two party political dynamic, I insist, they’re not doing it right.

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I voted for Ron DeSantis to be governor of Florida, not ambassador to Israel . . . fuck you and your jewish god . . .

The recently ousted Speaker of the US House of Representatives Kevin McCarthy, who took at least a dozen votes to get elected speaker, traveled to Israel immediately upon his election, declaring to the Israeli Knesset that the USA is steadfastly committed to supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia.

Was Kevin McCarthy trying to be speaker of the Israeli Knesset too?

It has become so painfully obvious, especially where you have someone like Nikki Haley wagging her finger and shouting down Vivek Ramaswamy in a presidential debate on live national television when the questions of this Ukrainian war against Russia and any mention of Israel are concerned, that the United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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I completely agree with you on the corrupt corporate duopoly issue, and you're right about Reagan, but probably not for reasons we agree upon. Some neoliberalism was necessary. Every country in the West was in danger of imminent economic collapse and permanent stagnation.

However, the danger of any radical action which disrupts the status quo is that it will begin a process which continues long beyond its original necessity. The economic health of a national system is something like the same shape as Laffer curve. The optimum setting is somewhere in the middle, where both labour and capital can benefit, but neither side can gain the whip hand. Hayek fans will disagree, but capitalism actually works because it acts as its own ecosystem, creating the labour purchasing power which means the companies in adjacent sectors get affluent consumers.

Mike Alexander (also on Substack) also makes the point that America might have been able to afford the tax cuts, if only its politicians didn't have a congenital craving for foreign interventions. You'll probably like him- he brings receipts and is very close to you in terms of political alignment.

Basically, other than welfare changes without a support mechanism for transition into employment, Reagan's biggest mistake was allowing Goldman Sachs in the door as advisors. Their counsel, although expert, was always going to favour the type of casino economics which favoured capital at the expense of labour on every issue. This would be my main counterpoint- capitalism wouldn't be in anywhere near as bad a state as it is, without the fact that finance remains the most powerful lobbying interest in DC. Everything those guys do entails capital production at the expense of productive economics. It's a system-wide feature of the Anglosphere- even New Zealand!

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Tax cuts?

You haven’t bothered to study our history. Or policy related to the topic.

Why in the world would anyone advocate for tax cuts? What we need is a progressive bracket system with loopholes shelters closed and incentives to reinvest your income into the economy.

I don’t know where to start here. I don’t think you understand macroeconomics nor the dynamic that is the relevant topics concerning our revenue and outlay.

In the world would you mentioned welfare? I’m sure you are speaking of social aid programs correct?

But since we are on the topic, let’s stick to it. Welfare is killing us. We are a socialist society. Corporate welfare. Corporate Socialism. Every taxpayer in America is liable for $8000 per year to corporations and $37 to their fellow citizens.

Corporate taxes should be so high that when passed down to the consumer, mom and Pop should be available shopping option.

I cannot refute a few of your claims because they’re just not relevant. We have no model of macro economic theory or position that represents our current rape and pillage of resources and capital including labor capital.

Foreign interventions are just one of many corporate subsidies we love to call a free market and essential to our security while they are nothing more than it taxpayer theft directed to the donor class.

I don’t see where much of your previous comment has any correlation to the United States economy and at the current juncture for macro or otherwise.

Nothing personal, but it’s mostly pseudo intellectual not correlated to reality word salad.

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I voted for Ron DeSantis to be governor of Florida, not ambassador to Israel . . . fuck you and your jewish god . . .

The recently ousted Speaker of the US House of Representatives Kevin McCarthy, who took at least a dozen votes to get elected speaker, traveled to Israel immediately upon his election, declaring to the Israeli Knesset that the USA is steadfastly committed to supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia.

Was Kevin McCarthy trying to be speaker of the Israeli Knesset too?

It has become so painfully obvious, especially where you have someone like Nikki Haley wagging her finger and shouting down Vivek Ramaswamy in a presidential debate on live national television when the questions of this Ukrainian war against Russia and any mention of Israel are concerned, that the United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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I'm an engineer, not a philosopher, but it seems like if you insist on a baseline of legitimacy, you can turn that pyramid into a tricky loop/cycle. A warlord who ruthlessly picks his teeth with the bones of his slightest enemies can be said to be a very ordered leader, but for order to be legitimate, it must land its heavy hand on those who behave unacceptably based on some equal framework that is built on an assumption of you-can-unless-you-can't.

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A cycle is exactly what that Ancient Greek political philosophy predicted! Monarchy leads to aristocracy leads to democracy leads to monarchy. Order leads to illiberalism; liberty leads to inequality; equality leads to disorder.

Cyclical theories of history are increasingly popular of late. If you're interested you could look up recent works by Peter Turchin or Neema Parvini.

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Nonsensical gibberish. As if none of the other policies instituted under those forms of federal government have any correlation? What about the economic model? The government architectural model? You are looking at an apple and trying to describe every fruit in the jungle

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It's a model, friend. It's not supposed to describe every aspect of everything perfectly. The map is not the territory, but the map is still useful.

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I voted for Ron DeSantis to be governor of Florida, not ambassador to Israel . . .

The recently ousted Speaker of the US House of Representatives Kevin McCarthy, who took at least a dozen votes to get elected speaker, traveled to Israel immediately upon his election, declaring to the Israeli Knesset that the USA is steadfastly committed to supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia.

Was Kevin McCarthy trying to be speaker of the Israeli Knesset too?

It has become so painfully obvious, especially where you have someone like Nikki Haley wagging her finger and shouting down Vivek Ramaswamy in a presidential debate on live national television when the questions of this Ukrainian war against Russia and any mention of Israel are concerned, that the United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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Not really. I’ll stick with the nonsensical gibberish observation.

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I voted for Ron DeSantis to be governor of Florida, not ambassador to Israel . . . fuck you and your jewish god . . .

The recently ousted Speaker of the US House of Representatives Kevin McCarthy, who took at least a dozen votes to get elected speaker, traveled to Israel immediately upon his election, declaring to the Israeli Knesset that the USA is steadfastly committed to supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia.

Was Kevin McCarthy trying to be speaker of the Israeli Knesset too?

It has become so painfully obvious, especially where you have someone like Nikki Haley wagging her finger and shouting down Vivek Ramaswamy in a presidential debate on live national television when the questions of this Ukrainian war against Russia and any mention of Israel are concerned, that the United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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It’s the laws of thermodynamics…btw, macroeconomists need to understand the laws of thermodynamics because so much of macroeconomics is based on extracting fossil fuels.

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Nice post. I will think of this often now.

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I immediately thought of the hierarchy of needs as well, but I am not sure about the ordering you propose. The hierarchy has three levels: physical, social, spiritual/intellectual. We can associate order with physical security -- the base layer, but it seems to me that the social layer has more to do with equality than freedom, and the spiritual/intellectual layer has more to do with liberty. Also, does equality pre-suppose freedom? That seems wrong to me -- freedom leads to divergence, not equality.

In other words, I would propose: order -> equality -> freedom.

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Yes, I was careful not to say that it is the /same/ as /Maslow's/ hierarchy of needs, only that it “looks a lot like a hierarchy of needs”!

I think it's just a matter of historical record that order is prior to freedom is prior to equality. That cycle perhaps makes most sense in the context of the Greek monarchy-oligarchy-democracy model, when you consider what each new ruling class in turn needs. The monarch needs order; the oligarchs need liberty; the demos needs equality.

What implications this has for a direct analogy to a psychological hierarchy of needs, I don't know. Perhaps the similarity is merely illusory. Perhaps Maslow is wrong. I suspect that the answer is instead that we are looking at a cyclical dialectic in which the safety-order layer is actually the /demand/ of the demos that is /satisfied/ by the monarch. As society falls into chaos, the failing demos needs order, which the monarch provides by over-taking the demos as the prime mover (achieving Maslow's transcendence for himself). As the monarchical order crystallises into rigidity, the failing monarch needs liberty to act, which the oligarchy provides by over-riding the monarch as the prime mover. As the oligarchic liberty fissions into inequality, the failing oligarchs need equality, which the demos provides by over-taking the oligarchy as the prime mover. And as the demotic equality degenerates into chaos… In this way we see that in society order is prior to liberty is prior to equality because this cycle moves BACKWARDS through Maslow's hierarchy of order > equality > liberty.

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That also sums up the famous French motto. Liberté = Freedom, Egalité = Equality, Fraternité = Order

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Sort of, but I think that motto specifically excludes Order because the French Revolutionaries were so radical. They needed another word for the tricolon and it had to end in “-ité”. Fraternity is more like another way of saying “Compassion”, which is more related to Equality than Order.

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Fraternite does not mean order.

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Fraternité is common group interest and friendship

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Va te faire foutre toi et ton dieu juif . . . Le judéo-messianisme répand parmi nous son message empoisonné depuis près de deux mille ans. Les universalismes démocratique et communiste sont plus récents, mais ils n’ont fait que renforcer le vieux récit juif. Ce sont les mêmes idéaux.

Les idéaux transnationaux, transraciaux, transsexuels, transculturels que ces idéologies nous prêchent (au-delà des peuples, des races, des cultures) et qui sont le subsistance quotidienne de nos écoles, dans nos médias, dans notre culture populaire, à nos universités, et sur nos rues, ont fini par réduire notre identité biosymbolique et notre fierté ethnique à leur expression minimale.

Les banquiers juifs ont inondé l’Europe de musulmans et l’Amérique de déchets du tiers-monde . . . L'exil comme punition pour ceux qui prêchent la sédition devrait être rétabli dans le cadre juridique de l'Occident . . . Le judaïsme, le christianisme, et l’islam sont des cultes de mort originaires du Moyen-Orient et totalement étrangers à l’Europe et à ses peuples.

On se demande parfois pourquoi la gauche européenne s’entend si bien avec les musulmans. Pourquoi un mouvement souvent ouvertement antireligieux prend-il le parti d’une religiosité farouche qui semble s’opposer à presque tout ce que la gauche a toujours prétendu défendre ? Une partie de l’explication réside dans le fait que l’Islam et le marxisme ont une racine idéologique commune : le judaïsme.

Don Rumsfeld avait raison lorsqu’il disait : «L’Europe s’est décalé sur son axe», c’est le mauvais côté qui a gagné la Seconde Guerre mondiale, et cela devient chaque jour plus clair . . . Qu’a fait l’OTAN pour défendre l’Europe? Absolument rien . . . Mes ennemis ne sont pas à Moscou, à Damas, à Téhéran, à Riyad ou dans quelque croque-mitaine teutonique éthéré, mes ennemis sont à Washington, Bruxelles et Tel Aviv.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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I'm afraid you lost me at Jewish bankers flooding Europe with Muslims.

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When you say "a common model in political theory", is it one that has a name/originator? Are you talking about the "three languages of politics" model that economist Arnold Kling presented in his 2013 book by that name (summarized at https://www.anthonybrobinson.com/tribal-talk-the-three-languages-of-politics/ ) or was Kling basing it on an idea that predated his book?

Kling's formulation of the three was phrased slightly differently--in his model libertarians do focus on "freedom" as you said, and the progressives were said to focus on fighting oppression which I suppose could be equated with equality (though socialists mainly care about ending the inequality where some make a living mainly through capital ownership and others mainly through salaried work), but conservatives were identified with a "civilization vs. barbarism" axis. I think it's potentially misleading to equate that with a general desire for "order", since for a conservative there'd be forms of order which they would fight against because they didn't preserve the values they associated with civilization, like order imposed by invaders they see as having barbaric values, or by something like a Bolshevik revolution.

I also think Kling's formulation is a bit unsatisfying because it implies conservatives are the only ones concerned with cultural products of civilization distinct from human social relations, but conservatives are really mainly interested in preserving *traditional* forms of culture, whereas significant fractions of both progressives and libertarians do have a more future-oriented form of cultural creativity they find valuable in themselves, like the creation of new forms of art, technology, and science. For those progressives and libertarians, concern with freedom or ending certain kinds of oppression can for be seen in large part as a means to an end of having a society that maximizes that kind of dynamic novelty, as opposed to one locked in traditionalist stasis as might be said of most premodern civilizations, or one that wastes the creative potential of a significant fraction of the population.

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I can’t find the comment you made about lumping progressives in the socialist that’s exactly what I mean. That’s purposeful to degrade and minimize the position. Progressives aren’t about equality specifically. They are about doing the right thing. Sustainability. Justice, peace and opportunity. Those are the three things that our constitutional republic are aiming it. Your claims are wrong in terms of the goals. Read the preamble

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Purposely excluding progressive because it’s the pertinent stand?

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No, because progressives primarily value equality and are thus functionally socialists in this model.

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Again, the progressives primary value is constitutionality and the ideal that is America. To say otherwise is either ignorant or intentionally disingenuous. Both completely socially unacceptable

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Therefore, justice, peace and opportunity are the pressure points. There’s nothing about equality. That is inclusive concerning justice. You have intentionally more than likely, completely misrepresented the framers entrance, and made up completely false narrative simply to dinner grade and minimize the most prescient political position of the day. It’s the only ideology that could possibly save us from the eminent climate disaster and somehow restore the republic by a constitutional reaffirmation whether formal or policy enacted.

Shame on you

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Again, read the preamble. You are incorrect on your claims about the constitutional republic and its goals concerning with the people that the framers left us.

Justice is enumerated specifically

Provide Domestic tranquility and common defense = Peace

Provide for the common welfare = Opportunity

Equality is not represented in the constitution nor is it some thing the progressives are concerned about other than it is certainly one of the constituents of justice. Your political thoughts are convoluted and shortsighted.

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What an interesting theory . It leaves out the most successful government model ever implemented. Progressivism. Social democracy. There are light years between liberal and socialist. There is no true by definition “liberal” party in the United States. Only is measured by relativity. The Eisenhower administration was far left of today’s Democrats and it’s platform

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I voted for Ron DeSantis to be governor of Florida, not ambassador to Israel . . . fuck you and your jewish god . . .

The recently ousted Speaker of the US House of Representatives Kevin McCarthy, who took at least a dozen votes to get elected speaker, traveled to Israel immediately upon his election, declaring to the Israeli Knesset that the USA is steadfastly committed to supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia.

Was Kevin McCarthy trying to be speaker of the Israeli Knesset too?

It has become so painfully obvious, especially where you have someone like Nikki Haley wagging her finger and shouting down Vivek Ramaswamy in a presidential debate on live national television when the questions of this Ukrainian war against Russia and any mention of Israel are concerned, that the United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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This discussion leaves out a group of people: older, traditional leftists who are dismayed by the excesses of the "woke" group but do not align at all with liberal thinking as you rightly define it. Exemplified by Bernie Sanders and the older members of DSA (many of whom, tellingly, broke with the organization in the wake of October 7th,) they may not be large enough (or relevant enough) to merit consideration, but I do wonder where they fit in.

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The slice you're describing is encapsulated in the deceptive statement in the article that critical theory "emerged from the Marxist tradition".

It emerged from it in that it more or less rejected it.

"Traditional" leftism, Marxism, whatever is resolutely materialist, and believes that the realm of ideas is merely a superstructure constructed to support and justify the material base of the mode of production.

Critical theory (increasingly, over time) flipped that on its head to give the realm of ideology and culture explanatory power over the production and allocation of resources.

That sounds arcane, but out of that divide comes the exact cleavage you're talking about. Bernie vs Warren and so forth.

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Yeah you are describing people like Freddie DeBoer-- old school marxists.

They are loud online but not a real factor in elections. All lefty elected officials embrace identity politics. Even Bernie has gone that way.

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Bernie, Warren (and to a lesser extent AOC) are probably CJL, or Class Justice Leftists. They think the system is rigged just like the SJL, but they think it’s rigged against the working class instead of identities in the minority.

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And they are correct. We should be fighting the class wars and lay down our sword concerning the culture wars.

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I voted for Ron DeSantis to be governor of Florida, not ambassador to Israel . . . fuck you and your jewish god . . .

The recently ousted Speaker of the US House of Representatives Kevin McCarthy, who took at least a dozen votes to get elected speaker, traveled to Israel immediately upon his election, declaring to the Israeli Knesset that the USA is steadfastly committed to supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia.

Was Kevin McCarthy trying to be speaker of the Israeli Knesset too?

It has become so painfully obvious, especially where you have someone like Nikki Haley wagging her finger and shouting down Vivek Ramaswamy in a presidential debate on live national television when the questions of this Ukrainian war against Russia and any mention of Israel are concerned, that the United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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I voted for Ron DeSantis to be governor of Florida, not ambassador to Israel . . . fuck you and your jewish god . . .

The recently ousted Speaker of the US House of Representatives Kevin McCarthy, who took at least a dozen votes to get elected speaker, traveled to Israel immediately upon his election, declaring to the Israeli Knesset that the USA is steadfastly committed to supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia.

Was Kevin McCarthy trying to be speaker of the Israeli Knesset too?

It has become so painfully obvious, especially where you have someone like Nikki Haley wagging her finger and shouting down Vivek Ramaswamy in a presidential debate on live national television when the questions of this Ukrainian war against Russia and any mention of Israel are concerned, that the United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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AOC to a much lesser extent.

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I voted for Ron DeSantis to be governor of Florida, not ambassador to Israel . . . fuck you and your jewish god . . .

The recently ousted Speaker of the US House of Representatives Kevin McCarthy, who took at least a dozen votes to get elected speaker, traveled to Israel immediately upon his election, declaring to the Israeli Knesset that the USA is steadfastly committed to supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia.

Was Kevin McCarthy trying to be speaker of the Israeli Knesset too?

It has become so painfully obvious, especially where you have someone like Nikki Haley wagging her finger and shouting down Vivek Ramaswamy in a presidential debate on live national television when the questions of this Ukrainian war against Russia and any mention of Israel are concerned, that the United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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The label “progressive” would be a far more apt moniker.

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I voted for Ron DeSantis to be governor of Florida, not ambassador to Israel . . . fuck you and your jewish god . . .

The recently ousted Speaker of the US House of Representatives Kevin McCarthy, who took at least a dozen votes to get elected speaker, traveled to Israel immediately upon his election, declaring to the Israeli Knesset that the USA is steadfastly committed to supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia.

Was Kevin McCarthy trying to be speaker of the Israeli Knesset too?

It has become so painfully obvious, especially where you have someone like Nikki Haley wagging her finger and shouting down Vivek Ramaswamy in a presidential debate on live national television when the questions of this Ukrainian war against Russia and any mention of Israel are concerned, that the United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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Nate, as a Reform Jew who has spent the past many years sitting on DEI boards while going home and discussing with my wife that there's not a place for us in the discussion. But I thought being an ally was important. There are parts of the fight I still think are very important - specifically around women's equality. But I'm done fighting for people who will turn their back on me. I won't fight against them but I feel pretty burned.

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Women's equality has been abandoned by the SJL. Except for abortion, the right is now much better. Only Republicans endorse the Women's Bill of Rights, and only red states have enacted it. Meanwhile Democrats are permitting fully intact incarcerated male rapists to be housed in women's prisons if they say "I'm trans".

https://womensbillofrights.com

https://womensdeclarationusa.com

https://womensliberationfront.org

https://www.amazon.com/Reckoning-Democrats-Betrayed-Women-Girls/dp/B0CN32BXC2

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Republicans are better on women’s equality? I guess if the only thing that motivates you is how much you hate trans people I can squint and see it.

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That, and the complete disconnection from reality.

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I voted for Ron DeSantis to be governor of Florida, not ambassador to Israel . . . fuck you and your jewish god . . .

The recently ousted Speaker of the US House of Representatives Kevin McCarthy, who took at least a dozen votes to get elected speaker, traveled to Israel immediately upon his election, declaring to the Israeli Knesset that the USA is steadfastly committed to supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia.

Was Kevin McCarthy trying to be speaker of the Israeli Knesset too?

It has become so painfully obvious, especially where you have someone like Nikki Haley wagging her finger and shouting down Vivek Ramaswamy in a presidential debate on live national television when the questions of this Ukrainian war against Russia and any mention of Israel are concerned, that the United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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