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Patrick Gourley's avatar

I think you make a great point about how wrongly assured people will be in 2025 that whatever happened was obvious. If Biden were to beat Trump then everyone will say, "See it's obvious the Democrats should have stuck with Biden. He beat Trump in 2020 and now has the advantage of incumbency!" If Trump beats Biden then people will say, "What were the Dems thinking? All the polls showed that voters thought Biden was too old, and the only reason he won in 2020 was because of the limited campaigning he had to do because of Covid."

There's going to be a lot of hindsight bias either way because there are good arguments for both sticking with and ditching Biden.

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sonik0909's avatar

The idea that Biden would be under pressure to wholeheartedly endorse Harris... feels like conventional wisdom that hasn't really been thought through.

Sure, that expectation might exist—and I understand the implied message that's sent if Biden doesn't endorse his VP. But what are the actual stakes?

For Biden? The man is 80+. If this scenario even happens, it means he's never running for anything again. Is failing to endorse his VP some stain on his legacy? I can't see it. In the grand scheme of things, it feels like VERY small potatoes.

For Harris? I'd understand if she's miffed, and it would do her campaign no favors... but most signs suggest she's not the best candidate anyway. Why should we care if she's miffed?

For the Democratic Party? Again, Harris probably isn't the best candidate anyway. Why should the party even want that endorsement to happen?

From where I'm standing, this issue is nothing worse than... a bit awkward. It hardly seems to matter. To minimize the awkwardness (which seems in everyone's interest), it's best if Biden and Harris present a united front. Biden can say he's stepping aside because he wants nothing more than a truly open primary where the voters choose the best candidate—so he won't be making an endorsement. Harris can say she hasn't requested Biden's endorsement because she honors his stance that an open primary is best and wants to compete on a level playing field (which she's eager to do because she's proud of her record).

Sure, it's all spin—but who cares? I just can't see this as the major issue it's sometimes made out to be.

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