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M Reed's avatar

As a Catholic who believes that betting on popes is the highest form of 'tempting fate', I wouldn't have bet on it. However, if I had known that there was a American under consideration... I would have giving him a 10% just because of the politics of American Catholicism right now.

Bluntly put, there's been a show down between the International Catholic organization, the American Bishops, and the American conservative Catholics, and the American liberal Catholics. And it's a 4 way show down right now, make no mistake.

For the church itself, reinforcing and bringing back into the fold the Liberal Catholics is a priority, given how that is the wing that has shrunk over the past two decades, and the international catholic organization is more and more ideologically in line with this branch of American Catholicism. But it's also the wing of 'lapsed Catholics', so it's the most finicky branch and then one that pushes hardest on the pain points for everyone.

The American Bishops are a lot more conservative on the whole than the international bishops, and they open their mouths and say things about immigration and the like that sound a awful lot like the gospel of prosperity or the Evangelicals church. This is and has been a huge pain point, but the international church hasn't put it's foot down hard because I believe there is fear of causing a split akin to the creation of the Anglican church by Henry the VIII. (FYI, this is why the Trump Pope picture played ESPECIALLY bad to Catholics. It's real easy to read that as "American Bishops, I could be your pope")

The conservative and liberal branches I feel I don't need to explain for the most part, as that part of the American experience is on full display 24/7, for better or worse. But the important part of this is a paradoxical issue of growth: Conservative Catholicism has been steady in it's participation, but it's not growing and it tries to make demands Catholicism as if it owns it, rather than serving the community. The Liberal branch gets the serving part and tend to be very chill towards the larger organization, but the liberals are flaky, lapsed, and tend towards complete disengagement.

In this environment, Pope Leo is the 'Secure America' pope.

1) His ties to Francis makes him a hit internationally, and his views are more of the same.

2) Being an American, he can make a pretty good neutral argument to both the conservative and liberal congregations.

3) As a American, he can also reach around the American Bishops, which lessens the risk of a Anglican style split and forces them (somewhat) to play ball with the rest of the world.

4) There is also a increase in church participation in a pope's country when they are elected, which means that the range and ideology of both an individual parish and the local leadership tends to widen as more people get involved.

With these details in mind the Church electing a American Pope makes sense,

but it's also a sign of how much concern they have for American Catholicism at the moment.

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Christian's avatar

I live in Italy, and I can tell that here, in the last week, Prevost was considered among the 4-5 most probable. In the last two days he was considered the 2nd most likely. And, after the first day of ballota, some newpaper considered Prevost the favorite n.1. I did bet on Prevost (in a local website) one week ago. Probably there was some bias in the US.

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