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Aaron C Brown's avatar

I appreciate the careful statistical comparison between Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Michael Jordan, but it's not one that would have occurred to me from watching the two play. The analysis touches on this with discussion of efficiency and wasted possessions. Those things are more important to the feel of the game than perhaps to team wins.

I think of Michael Jordan in a category with baseball player Rickey Henderson. Both were all-time great players, of course, but both could have been greater if they had done less. Rickey Henderson's teams won more games when he got on base and didn't try to steal than when he got on base and tried to steal. It's not just the loss from when he was caught, it's that he attempted steals when the game situation--score, inning, outs, batter at the plate and pitch count--made it a negative expected value move. You can see that in the statistics, but you feel it more strongly as a fan--when Henderson got on base you felt he was thinking of the record book, not the game.

Similarly, Jordan missed too many shots. Threes, of course, and free throws, but also bad two opportunities. He played too many minutes a game, and too many games a season. He was the last Bull to touch the ball on too many wasted possessions. And he benefited more than any player I've ever seen from the NBA-referee star-favoritism. I'm not sure he would have had any steals or blocks if fouls had been called on him the way they were called on players guarding him.

Of course Jordan was one of the greatest NBA players ever, but I don't think he's head-and-shoulders above the rest of the top 20 or so, and he's a type of player I don't enjoy watching. I think his reputation is enhanced by his team successes--which were not all due to him--and his gaudy totals. Admittedly, I saw him in person mainly in New York, which seemed to bring out his hot-dogging more than other places.

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander has an almost opposite feel. When he's on the court you feel like he's playing for the team to win, not for the applause or the stats. He rarely takes a bad shot, or plays tired, or wastes a possession. He makes the players around him better, he doesn't steal their opportunities. He may not be the physical talent Michael Jordan was, and he probably won't have nearly as many peak years as Jordan, but he's the kind of player I pay to watch.

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Seneca Plutarchus's avatar

When making these sort of comparison, it would help top use some version of stats like baseball WRC+, that is that are better normed to circumstances and era. I've got a sneaking suspicion that 31 PPG and 6 RPG from a guard were more of an outlier in 1993 than they are in 2025.

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